bigshot
Headphoneus Supremus
The new iPhone has digital out that bypasses the internal DAC. It's a concession to audiophools who think more things to carry around means better sound.
It has always been possible to bypass the DAC in the iPhone by using line out and a CCK. IIRC the headphone socket was removed to allow the iPhone to be even thinner and the space was used for haptics or somesuch. Nothing to do with audiophiles or audiophools.The new iPhone has digital out that bypasses the internal DAC. It's a concession to audiophools who think more things to carry around means better sound.
The new iPhone has digital out that bypasses the internal DAC. It's a concession to audiophools who think more things to carry around means better sound.
It has always been possible to bypass the DAC in the iPhone by using line out and a CCK. IIRC the headphone socket was removed to allow the iPhone to be even thinner and the space was used for haptics or somesuch. Nothing to do with audiophiles or audiophools.
A friend of mine offered his still-in-use iPod 5th (Video) for df-measurements. Conclusion: thanks to Wolfson audio chip with relatively high level of waveform degradation iPod 5th (Video) has its own distinctive sound signature (slightly harsh mids, transparent highs). Some music types/genres can benefit from this artifact signature, some other will not. As a result there always be lovers and haters of this player. Starting from iPhone 4 and iPod 6th Gen. Apple uses much more transparent/neutral audio chips from Cirrus Logic.
Thanks for the note. I know about that clipping (I read Archimago too)). Yes, it was ruled out during recording of SE test sequences. The sound signature (artifact signature indeed) of iPod 5th is due to Wolfson chip architecture. Mid frequencies degrade to more extent than highs. Odd harmonics prevail in the distortion.I'm not sure if you've ruled this out during your testing. My iPod Video worked the last time I used it, which was years ago. It's in a drawer somewhere. IIRC, it was pretty audibly transparent with the work-around.
Just a sidebar: I recently purchased a 2007 Cadillac SRX. To play from my iPhone 7+ to the Cadillac's Bose radio required me to buy a DAC, since the radio does not have a digital input. I went with a $35 Belkin. So far, I'm satisfied with the sound in all manner. Only thing problematic is I cannot control the iPhone from the radio. At any rate, I do not know how I'd go about appraising the iPhone 7's DAC, since the only means for appraisal is the from the iPhone's speakers.
Does audio come out of the lightning only on iPhone 7 & up, which have no mini-TRS out?
Via the cheap iPhone ear buds, there is a small dac chip in the lightning plug and audio does come out.
I also use the little lightning dongle to hook up slightly less cheap ear buds for when I go to the gym.
This is true, until you actually hear, what a "good" dac can do.yeah the dac is in the dongle and it sounds very good. I'm in agreement with Bigshot that many audiophiles waste too much money on dacs. Pretty much any dac that isn't actually defective will do the job...
Will concur, A solid chain can make a difference. Night and day? Maybe not so much... Enough for me to pick and and easily have a preference? Definitely.This is true, until you actually hear, what a "good" dac can do.
This is true, until you actually hear, what a "good" dac can do.
Via the cheap iPhone ear buds, there is a small dac chip in the lightning plug and audio does come out.
I also use the little lightning dongle to hook up slightly less cheap ear buds for when I go to the gym.