[DAnMaN15726]

I am a starting audiophile, and the only good headphones that i have that have a certain prestige is the:
Audio Techniqua:
Ath-M30 (Getting it friday)
Ath-ANC23
 
 
some day i might get the Ath-m50
I think the ANC23 is very good, but it seems to be lacking in my taste of opinion.
I know it is all based on preference and opinion but i'd like to know what your idea of a reference is.
what i mean by that is, what is the happy median for you?
What is that perfect headphone that can tell you "Hey this has more bass or more atmosphere than my "reference"?
Because most of the reviews on here have a number, i'd like to know, how do you come up with that number all by yourself?
you say 7, but what doesn't make it an 8? Based on ground can you say that? Do you guys know what i mean?

 

[Graphicism]

Well reference is quite often used by manufacturers as marketing, take the Denon D7000 and it's 'Ultra Reference' title, these are not reference in my book.
 
Personally I think reference should relate to neutral, much like a monitoring speaker is reference.
 
Welcome to Head-Fi!

 

[DAnMaN15726]

Ahhhhh but see. How do you know that something is truly neutral. You can't take just anybodys word. thats my problem

 

[Graphicism]

You can get a pretty good idea from reading reviews which headphones are close to neutral; HD600, DT880, SA3000, HE6, HD800 to name a handful. From here you really have to listen to yourself to find which tone or sound-signature suits you best.

 

[DAnMaN15726]

Yeah i have read. From the models you said, are there multiple people that agree that those models are neutral, cause that can help.

 

[wolfetan44]

I agree, I've listened to all of them except for the SA3000.

 

[korewest]

If you want to "see" the neutrality, you can always take a look at credible Frequency Response graphs such as those on innerfidelity.com

 

[DAnMaN15726]

Thank you Wolf! Thats very reassuring. And i shall check that out Kore.