Sgt_Strider
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I went away for a little while and the thread seemed to have been deleted. What happened to it?
Originally Posted by mr.karmalicious Kaboom... there goes a bunch of info |
Originally Posted by socrates63 I dunno... last I checked (about a week ago), the group buy probably wasn't going to deliver much better than $180 (if even that) while Headroom already has a presale for $200. I initially signed up for the group buy but opted out recently. I rather go with Headroom and pay a few dollars more for 30 days money back refund policy. |
Originally Posted by JiPi Last I heard, PTheD was saying he would be getting a substantially better price than $178 |
Originally Posted by K.Ashwood Jude, Deleted the threads because they are instituting some guidelines for all group buys. Keith Ashwood |
Originally Posted by Daroid Guidelines which don't exist yet (or maybe i'm totally blind). ? |
Originally Posted by Daroid Deleting a group buy because they suddenly want to introduce a rule, but not just yet, is nonsense. |
Originally Posted by Blitzula Seconded. A sponsor posts with concerns that he may have to match others' pricing and suddenly all group buy threads are deleted. They should have been grandfathered in. There was a lot of work put into one of those group buys. It looks like head-fi caters to its sponsors first and foremost. I don't particularly have an issue with that, but it does make me realize that this is more a business venture than a community. |
Originally Posted by braillediver The least people should do is wait and see what Jude has to say and his reasoning. If you think it was premature to remove the group buy thread then it’s also premature to complain about what he’s doing or going to say since you don’t know what’s going on yet. |
Originally Posted by braillediver “but it does make me realize that this is more a business venture than a community.” I doubt that. I bet Jude would be better off just burning the money instead of investing in this “business” venture. Am I the only one concerned that some of these group buys were involving a lot of money. Sooner or later one is going to go bad and there will be a lot of finger pointing and complaining such as “Why didn’t Head-Fi do more to monitor these transactions”. The least people should do is wait and see what Jude has to say and his reasoning. If you think it was premature to remove the group buy thread then it’s also premature to complain about what he’s doing or going to say since you don’t know what’s going on yet. Mitch |
Originally Posted by jude When PtheD coordinated a recent E4c group buy, I was more okay with it for the time being, because (a) he'd been around for a little while, and (b) I felt quite certain he wasn't affiliated with any of the dealers he was coordinating with. Even then, however, I knew that some guidelines were going to eventually be put in place for some reasons I'll get to as this post continues. What makes me uncomfortable about this one, and why I realize that, because of it, guidelines are going to have to be laid down, is because rskbug is a quite-new member, and had just nine posts prior to this thread. It's not my opinion that he's associated with the vendor he chose, but, let's face it, here's what this thread suggests: That anyone can do it. This thread is "How-to-make-a-quick-$2000-to-$3000-on-Head-Fi 101," and, given how easy this has proven to be to set up and promote, I know that we'll see more of this down the road if we don't create some guidelines; and I know that, as easy as this is, some dealers who don't give much of a hoot about Head-Fi, except for the sale, will simply arrange the group buys themselves by registering profiles to promote them on the Main Forums. (Again, though I don't feel that's the case here, this thread was a too clear a statement about how open that door really is now.) Though what follows isn't a perfect analogy, for those who'd argue that this wouldn't happen, a recent dealer/distributor (not anyone involved in these group buys) recently registered multiple profiles to tell everyone how satisfied he was as customers of himself (and this happens, as it's apparently too irresistible for some to not use for attempted promotion) -- now ask any moderator who's been here longer than a few months how many times they've seen it happen. So why not just let anyone do it? Low prices for everybody, right? Who cares who's coordinating it? Who cares if it's someone associated with the company or not? (And, again, I don't think that's the case here.) Here's one important reason: if I let that happen, it seriously diminishes incentive from those Members of the Trade who can engage in and profit from group buy activity to ever advertise here or sponsor here, when volume promotions can be had for free on the Main Forums. I'm for the idea of group buys, and the savings that can be passed on to the customers, but if they're going to happen here, they're not going to happen exactly as they've happened here in this thread. What will the guidelines be? I'm working on this now, and would like to be able to do it in such a manner that would keep group buy offers open to sponsors and non-sponsors. |