What can $250 get me for clarity/soundstage/and comfort?
Jan 16, 2010 at 8:29 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 24

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I'm planning on selling my Senn HD 25 IIs, and replacing them with RE0s for portable use, and buying some good cans for listening at home.

Here's what matters most to me:
Soundstage
Clarity
Comfort - always a little jealous when I try on Bose or Beats at the apple store(before turning on any music i mean)

Also though ill primarily be using these with a Macbook Pro, it would be nice if I could use my iPhone 3GS to power them once in a while too.

I'm willing to put down around $250.

What should i take a look at?
 
Jan 16, 2010 at 8:44 AM Post #2 of 24
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I'm planning on selling my Senn HD 25 IIs, and replacing them with RE0s for portable use, and buying some good cans for listening at home.



I will say, this is not a right move mate, downgrading from such awesome headphones, anyway for home use,it will depend entirely on the rest of your setup,if that is lame, then Grado 325is should do a good job for you.
If not then look out for used Sennheiser HD 600.
 
Jan 16, 2010 at 9:12 AM Post #4 of 24
Can K-702s be powered by an iPhone? Not that I'm totally set on getting ones that can, not my top priority.

And yeah the Senns are really awesome, I'll prolly miss them. But from what I've read the RE0s should rival their sound quality. I'm getting the RE0s before buying/selling anything else so I'll test it out for myself.
 
Jan 16, 2010 at 11:42 AM Post #7 of 24
Get the HD555's and save $150
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Jan 16, 2010 at 12:51 PM Post #9 of 24
Maybe you could try Denon AH-D2000.
Many assume that this headphone is not hard to drive than AKG K701/2.
But if you could buy a headphone amp, even a budget one, the K701/2 is the way to go.
 
Jan 16, 2010 at 1:16 PM Post #10 of 24
You probably know, but these open 'phones recommended including re0 are not strong in bass quantity like hd 25 1 mid bass hump.
If you want deep, tight, fast bass and you dont mind quantity then go for akg k702 and budget amp , should be useful with your re0 too. If not then go for the denon d2000 they have much bigger soundstage than hd 25 1 , much more details, better bass extension and have mid bass punch.
 
Jan 16, 2010 at 1:43 PM Post #11 of 24
You could get an ATH-AD900 for around that price.

Clarity? Check.
Soundstage? Double check.
Comfort? Quadruple check.
 
Jan 16, 2010 at 2:04 PM Post #12 of 24
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Originally Posted by kunalraiker /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I will say, this is not a right move mate, downgrading from such awesome headphones, anyway for home use,it will depend entirely on the rest of your setup,if that is lame, then Grado 325is should do a good job for you.
If not then look out for used Sennheiser HD 600.



I really wouldn't say its a downgrade at all, HD25 is clearly not one of the best phone I heard and RE0 is pretty good.
 
Jan 16, 2010 at 2:10 PM Post #13 of 24
It sounds as if you're getting good advice given your priorities.

Personally, I value tonal purity and richness somewhat above sharp definition. To give a video analogy, I would be more concerned with the contrast ratio than with the number of megapixels. I think the audiophile community is still giving first priority to the sonic equivalent of megapixels.

What would a budget option be given these different priorities? It depends on your music, of course. Suppose it's classical. In that case, try vintage Sennheisers on Ebay. The HD 530 and HD 560 recently sold for $35 and $43 respectively and (confusingly) are later and reputedly better models than the famous HD 540.

You will then need a good source (CD player or DAC) and an amplifier. I have tinkered with equipment lying around. The HD 530, which I have, sounds dull just plugged in to a Sony boombox. It's not much better when you feed that boom-box into an amp; that Sony is just a poor CD player (i.e. a cheap DAC). I had heard that DVD players are bad for CDs, but out of curiosity, For a budget amp, consider the receiver-amplifier in an Onkyo mini system with Wide Range Amplifying Technology (or any good receiver-amplifier).

Note that these earlier Sennheisers have the p4x connector, which is different from the one for the HD 580/600/650. So it's not tempting to buy the Cardas upgrade cable or its rivals. (Buy replacement cables and cushions, which you'll probably need with these old headphones, from the Sennheiser USA store: resellers double the price.) The cable upgrade may not be necessary anyway. I don't know why it's important to the 580 and later, but perhaps because the bass interferes with higher tones, at least in the stock cable. The HD 560 and earlier don't have that deep bass and thus don't have the problem. (For the same reason, they won't satisfy bass-seekers. Neither will AKG k 702, by most accounts. The HD 530 does have plenty of bass for a cello.)

I imagine that the audiophiles have already fainted, but the result is surprisingly good. Listening to Mozart's Divertimento K. 563 performed by L'Archibudelli, you can hear the texture of the strings with great clarity, richness, and beauty. The same for a Bach Oboe Concerto, where the oboe is stunning. The sound is no doubt more blended in a symphony than you'd hear with an AKG k702 and a c 2c amplifier ($500-$600 combined cost) or even an Audio Technica in the ATH 700 (closed or open), which would be much cheaper than the 702 and c 2c. Sym-phony does mean blended sound, after all. Not that I wouldn't try the 702 and c2c if I could justify the expense.
 
Jan 17, 2010 at 5:49 AM Post #14 of 24
Thanks for all the recommendations. It looks like I'll most likely go with K701 or 702s. Probably the 701s, I dig the snazzy look.

What should I look for as far as an amp in the $50 range? I realize it would be best if I could go higher, but I can't right now.
I'll be playing music from my Macbook Pro and don't really want to spend on a separate player.
Just out of curiosity would the an amp do anything for my Behringer MS40 speakers? They're in $120 range, nothing fancy.

Wyki thanks for that advice. I don't listen to classical often but I might use that advice on old senns on my dad's next bday. his laptop speakers don't do anything justice
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Jan 17, 2010 at 6:39 AM Post #15 of 24
As others have spoken, AD900 or k701 works. I find k701 superior to AD900 comfort and detail retrieval wise provided that you amplify them.
 

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