wanted: portable speaker that sounds wonderful with my fiio x5/7 available in the UK

Jul 16, 2016 at 8:03 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 4

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Hi i want a portable speaker(s?) that can be attached to a dap (fiio x5/x7) from the line out and to my laptop from the dragonfly lineout.
 
Can anyone recommend one or possibly 2 (stereo) although this is not a deciding point as i am quite happy to have one speaker.
 
As far as i can see most are bluetooth which i do not need.
 
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Jul 16, 2016 at 8:28 AM Post #2 of 4
Jul 16, 2016 at 1:32 PM Post #3 of 4
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Hi i want a portable speaker(s?) that can be attached to a dap (fiio x5/x7) from the line out and to my laptop from the dragonfly lineout.
 
Can anyone recommend one or possibly 2 (stereo) although this is not a deciding point as i am quite happy to have one speaker.

 
If you want them to sound "wonderful" they're going to have to be stereo speakers in separate cabinets. There's no way around it if you want the complete package including imaging. Speakers can't image well if you can't put left channel and right channel far enough apart, toe-in properly set as needed and you sitting in the sweet spot, and that matters a lot more than a laptop vs X5. Given the same speakers, the X5 with two speakers put right next to each other vs a laptop with the speakers properly set 1m apart at least, the latter will sound more natural.
 
The problem with that is you either end up with large speakers just to get close to a fullrange (20hz to 20000hz) response, or you have to make compromises to that response, and more of it in the bass than the treble since driver surface area affects how low it can go and how audible that is from farther away (ie why good headphones with drivers smaller than speakers can have comparable a rated response range vs a speaker, ie, you aren't supposed to use the headphone in the same distance as you do the speaker). In your case, if it's for portable use, you have to make compromises against response to get a manageable size, and at best invest in how you carry them (ie - a bigger, better ergonomic backpack), but heck even the Edifier E25 Luna will need something like the Crumpler Karachi Outpost or Lowepro Flipside 300.
 
Alternately, depending on why you need them to be portable, why not just get decent speakers for use when you're personally listening? For example if the goal is be able to go on a business trip and then sit down at the desk in your hotel room where you can work or respond to emails and still have decent enough sound quality, then getting good but very compact speakers is the best way to go. Maybe slightly larger if you just want to be able to move around your home. If for example you want them in the office and then bring them home, then you might just want to get cheap but good enough compact speakers that you can leave in the office. Now in your case if the goal with using speakers with the X5 outside is to use it with friends, might as well just get decent sounding compact speakers, and maybe not even use the X5 with it if you can avoid it, considering that you are not using speakers that can take on a proper stereo placement (along with your seat, as noted above), and since you're with friends, are you going to listen critically or are you going to talk, grill/eat, drink, etc? And then just get a more serious stereo speaker for more serious listening at home where and when you can put more of your attention span into listening.
 
if it's the first, there's the Creative T-series, but note how it isn't just two separate speakers, you have the small power brick to worry about too. There are some that run off USB now, but still very small since they can't squeeze out a lot of output from USB with a relatively low cost circuit, but the thing is you can run these off a powerbank and then an analogue audio input from X5.
 
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As far as i can see most are bluetooth which i do not need.

 
Because these are targeted to a wider market who are more likely to have a smartphone than an X5, and BT is a safer way of standardizing the sound rather than having somebody usinga smartphone with very bad analogue audio output going off and giving a negative review regarding the sound, and given they're probably thinking of lugging it around to the beach or picnic rather than knowing what stereo imaging is, most of these also come either as mono speakers or they take stereo signals and have stereo output, but both drivers are in a single chassis anyway. The key there is convenience - we use a Bose Soundlink Mini in the patio and anyone who wants to play anything just pairs with his own phone and runs Spotify, rather than have a mess of cables for sound no one cares enough about (ie not sitting properly) when the ambient noise is marked by the sizzling of a grill manned by laughing, intoxicated rockers and metal heads bellowing out Fuel when fat drips into the charcoal. Using the tiny Bose speaker in the patio with my friends (and not mine either, my friend brings it over - I'm not paying $300 for speakers like that) doesn't change the fact that I have an HD600 upstairs, but the thing is, there are times when you can't even sit properly relative to the speakers anyway.
 
 
Essentially, what I'm getting at is, if you have a $300 budget, might as well get more serious desktop speakers intended for computers for $150 to $250, and if you need speakers for when you're out with friends, just get a decent BT speaker for $50.
 
Jul 16, 2016 at 5:22 PM Post #4 of 4
I bought the wife a Riva Turbo X to use in the kitchen and I have to say it sounds pretty good. We use it on the patio also . It is Bluetooth but also has a 3.5mm jack that I plug my QP1R into pretty powerful too. It can even charge your phone from the USB port.
 

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