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Nov 13, 2019 at 6:25 PM Post #1,156 of 5,715
@davidmolliere thank you for your reply. I believe setting 3 and 4 has the same and lightest amount of bass, something like -3 db when compare to setting 2 and setting 2 has -3 db of bass when compare to setting 1. There are people that said setting 1 has similar bass as Campfire Vega. And setting 4 has -3 db in the treble range so to bring out the Vocal in the mid range.

As for the Elysium I think what gets me is the transition from treble to mid where there is a sudden change in sound character supposedly because of the change or transition from Estat driver to DD driver. Normally in triple hybrid technology arrangement they go down from Treble (HF) to BA (MF) and to DD (LF), so by the time it gets down to low frequency, the DD driver characteristic does not show up as a big contras because that’s what low frequency supposed to sound. Just my two cents :wink:
 
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Nov 14, 2019 at 5:59 AM Post #1,157 of 5,715
@davidmolliere thank you for your reply. I believe setting 3 and 4 has the same and lightest amount of bass, something like -3 db when compare to setting 2 and setting 2 has -3 db of bass when compare to setting 1. There are people that said setting 1 has similar bass as Campfire Vega. And setting 4 has -3 db in the treble range so to bring out the Vocal in the mid range.

As for the Elysium I think what gets me is the transition from treble to mid where there is a sudden change in sound character supposedly because of the change or transition from Estat driver to DD driver. Normally in triple hybrid technology arrangement they go down from Treble (HF) to BA (MF) and to DD (LF), so by the time it gets down to low frequency, the DD driver characteristic does not show up as a big contras because that’s what low frequency supposed to sound. Just my two cents :wink:
Hi Jalo,

If I might check in here: You are correct: position 3 and position 4 technically have the same amount of bass, whereas position 4 also has decreased highs in reference to position 3.

I hope that helps!

All the best,

Johannes
 
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Nov 14, 2019 at 6:51 AM Post #1,158 of 5,715
Hi Jalo,

If I might check in here: You are correct: position 3 and position 4 technically have the same amount of bass, whereas position 4 also has decreased highs in reference to position 3.

I hope that helps!

All the best,

Johannes
Thanks, that is what I understood and what I meant to say based on your previous explanation. I know I am like a broken record when I keep saying the tuning on the Erlkonig is exquisite, resolving, so smooth from the bottom frequency to the top that they (the 13 BA drivers) play like a single driver yet dynamic enough to sound like an orchestra, they don’t need to wow me with new technologies like estat, planner, or ribbon, but with common BA they are like a humble paint brush capable producing the magic of Picasso and Vicent Van Gogh. In fact one of the member from another iems company considers the Erlkonig one of the most artistic iems made. The sound presentation is unpretentious and genuine, they mesmerize you like a natural beauty without any need for any make up or beautiful clothing but merely presenting herself without guile and capable of reflecting every fleeting emotion that may cross your mind and empathize with you like your therapist. Thank you VE for such a beautiful creation.
 
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Nov 14, 2019 at 7:34 AM Post #1,159 of 5,715
I think VE is one of the brands that delivers one of the most consistently positive experiences out there, and that ends up generating some really hardcore fans *cough* @Jalo *cough*....

In my entire team browsing HeadFi, I think I am yet to see someone say something negative about the company, their service, and what's most remarkable, their products

Pretty happy I went for my second Elysium :D
 
Nov 14, 2019 at 7:56 AM Post #1,160 of 5,715
@mvvRAZ, please call me “hardcore fans” when I order my second Erlkonig, would you? Besides I worried about your health, please take some cough drops :relaxed:
 
Nov 14, 2019 at 7:58 AM Post #1,161 of 5,715
@mvvRAZ, please call me “hardcore fans” when I order my second Erlkonig, would you? Besides I worried about your health, please take some cough drops :relaxed:
Hahah, what cable are you running the Erl with btw?
 
Nov 14, 2019 at 8:46 AM Post #1,163 of 5,715
I'm still impatiently waiting for my Elysium. It's a bummer you can't check the status online.
Well the silver lining is that it'll be the delivered in the exact week that was promised when you were purchasing it :)
 
Nov 14, 2019 at 10:11 AM Post #1,169 of 5,715
Agreeable impressions here. I prefer the tonality of the VE8 and Erlkonig over the Elysium as well. Prefer fuller upper-mids. VE8 is technicality lesser of the 3. Definately notice the lower definition and separation, less clean overall in response. If you compare side by side, it's easily distinguisheable.

I wonder if electret drivers generally cause a high level of treble response? Definately quick and does have electrostat quality in how it sounds highly separated, but going toward thiness. Full size equivalent in how it's characterized would be Hifiman HE1000 series headphones. Which is a planar that sounds close to electrostats probably due to thin diaphagm.
 
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Nov 16, 2019 at 3:29 AM Post #1,170 of 5,715
Hahah, what cable are you running the Erl with btw?
I thought the stock EA cable is one of the best stock cable I ever used. I have some very high end silver cable that I also like. Couple of weeks ago I was in Kong Kong and there is an ultra expensive limited edition Effect Audio: Hades that was recommended or (pushing) on me, but I did not like the treble, too dark. Then I found another cable I really like and I will upload in the next post. This add to the sound of the Erlkonig and does not subtract from it.
 
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