Violectric HPA V281 - Vorsprung durch Balanced (September 2023 Update: Limited Reissue Edition up for preorder!)
May 27, 2014 at 3:36 PM Post #151 of 5,893
  I have long been looking for an amplifier for my Sennheiser HD 800,

Have you listened to the V200s long enough to offer a comparison?
 
May 27, 2014 at 3:51 PM Post #152 of 5,893
I listened V200 -15 minutes and V281 - 30 minutes in the same place in Munich,
before Violectric never heard,
there were SPL Phonitor and other.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m0un88Ar5uI/U4TsdCf5jHI/AAAAAAAAAIo/6sWlm-r54NM/w346-h195/20140517_131252.jpg
 
May 28, 2014 at 4:39 AM Post #154 of 5,893
  Hi,
Xenophon,
 
I have long been looking for an amplifier for my Sennheiser HD 800,
 
I had Eximus DP1, LUXMAN P-1u,
listening to headphones with several tube amplifiers (Leben CS-600),
but the sound v281 liked more than others.
But this is only my personal opinion.

Yeah, at the end of the day it's always personal taste that determines most if not everything.  If I've learned anything in audio then it is that enjoyment is not a science thing.  But thanks for your impressions.  Interesting that you have the big Leben, no issues with hiss with the HD-800?
 
I'm on the fence and have a love/not so perfect thing with the V200.  Depending on my mood and the type of classical music I listen to I prefer a slightly warm-neutral sound or something dead neutral/crisp and airy sounding such as the Antelope Audio.  For the first sound sig. I reach to my tube amp which is a type that sounds very ss-like or for the V200 which is also a little bit warm.  If I like things detailed and a bit more aloof then neither the tube amp nor the V200 will do but my F5 works nicely.  
 
Fwiw I think there's a very good chance the V281 will better the EF-6 with the HE-6 headphones.  Design and soundwise I've never been extremely impressed with the EF-6, feel it's massively overpriced.  Its one quality is power but the V281 should come close.
 
May 28, 2014 at 2:30 PM Post #155 of 5,893
  Yeah, at the end of the day it's always personal taste that determines most if not everything.  If I've learned anything in audio then it is that enjoyment is not a science thing.  But thanks for your impressions.  Interesting that you have the big Leben, no issues with hiss with the HD-800?



 
I'm on the fence and have a love/not so perfect thing with the V200.  Depending on my mood and the type of classical music I listen to I prefer a slightly warm-neutral sound or something dead neutral/crisp and airy sounding such as the Antelope Audio.  For the first sound sig. I reach to my tube amp which is a type that sounds very ss-like or for the V200 which is also a little bit warm.  If I like things detailed and a bit more aloof then neither the tube amp nor the V200 will do but my F5 works nicely.



 
Fwiw I think there's a very good chance the V281 will better the EF-6 with the HE-6 headphones.  Design and soundwise I've never been extremely impressed with the EF-6, feel it's massively overpriced.  Its one quality is power but the V281 should come close.


Yes, you are absolutely right, all a matter of taste,
but for myself, I have chosen  amplifier to my headphones.
 
Jun 2, 2014 at 4:50 AM Post #158 of 5,893
I hope we dont have to wait much longer to have our amps.
 
Jun 4, 2014 at 4:31 AM Post #161 of 5,893
Which version are you guys getting? Did anyone already pull the trigger on the 128 stepped attenuator edition? 
 
Jun 4, 2014 at 7:58 AM Post #162 of 5,893
  Which version are you guys getting? Did anyone already pull the trigger on the 128 stepped attenuator edition? 

 
Silver front / black feet V281 standard volume control.
 
Jun 7, 2014 at 9:36 PM Post #164 of 5,893
Jun 16, 2014 at 11:01 AM Post #165 of 5,893
Finally we managed to measure V220 and V281.
For a better comparison we added the data from V200.

 
 
Technical Data
HPA V200
HPA V220
HPA V281
Input impedance
10 kOhm
10 kOhm
10 kOhm
Amp Gain
+8 dB
+8 dB
+14 dB
Pre-Gain
-12 / -6 / 0 / +6 / +12 dB
-12 / -6 / 0 / +6 / +12 dB
-12 / -6 / 0 / +6 / +12 dB
 Amp Gain + Pre-Gain
-4 / +2 / +8 / +14 / +20 dB
-4 / +2 / +8 / +14 / +20 dB
+2 / +8 / +14 / +20 / +26 dB
Frequency Range
5Hz … 70 kHz (-0,5 dB)
5Hz … 70 kHz (-0,5 dB)
5Hz … 70 kHz (-0,5 dB)
Noise unwtd.
-98 dB
-98 dBu
-92 dBu
Noise A-wtd.
-101 dB
-101 dBu
-95 dBu
Dynamic Range
129 dB
129 dB
129 dB
Output impedance
< 0,083 Ohm
< 0,1 Ohm
< 0,2 Ohm
Damping Factor                 ( 50 Ohm Load)
> 600
> 500
> 250
Crosstalk @ 1 kHz
-122 dB
-120 dB
-105 dB
Crosstalk @ 15 kHz
-113 dB
-113 dB
-103 dB
THD+N @ 1kHz / 1W
-100 dB
-102 dB
-102 dB
THD+N @ 1 kHz / 0,5 W
-103 dB
-100 dB
-100 dB

... and here is the output power (always all channels driven !)
Please take a closer look to the V281 data @ 600 Ohm.
40,2 Vrms looks like world record :wink:)
 
Pout max.         V / mW / dB                    @ THD < 0,1 %
 
HPA V200
HPA V220
HPA V281
RL/Ohm
Ua/V
P/mW
dBu
Ua/V
P/mW
dBu
Ua/V
P/mW
dBu
600
19,0
600
27,8
20,0
670
28,2
40,2
2700
34,3
100
15,3
2330
25,9
17,5
3050
27,0
23,7
5600
29,7
50
11,5
2630
23,4
11,6
2700
23,5
14,5
4200
25,4
32
7,9
1970
20,2
9,5
2800
21,8
9,5
2800
21,8
16
4,2
1120
14,7
4,9
1500
16,0
4,9
1500
16,0
 
Best Regards
 
Fried Reim
 

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