Vinyl...

[ReDVsion]

Wow.

No, WOW. Really. Jesus. Christ.

If you haven't guessed, I just bought a turntable, a Pro-Ject Model 2. Moreover, I got about 50 records cleaned.

I am so (explative) impressed.

Comparing some of the (limited) tunes I have on both Vinyl and CD... technically speaking my M-Audio AP is better. From a technical standpoint. Sound is clearer, cleaner, and more detailed.

But finally getting a decent turntable and a few CLEAN records has opened my eyes to that inexplicable extra element of music reproduction that analog, and only analog, can reproduce. I still don't get it. But I've already gotten past the stage where I care.

*sigh* This is where it's at...

 

[sandokan]

.. a few months ago. I started with Project 2 turntable and after 1 week I returned it. The sound from Project 2 was SOO GOOD that I decided right a way to go with more expensive turntable. I ordered VPI Scout with Dynavector DX-20H cart and EAR 834P phono stage! Now I thing I am in music heaven

I have the same SACD and vinyl titles and I really LOVE vinyl sound which I thing sounds better!!!

 

[eyeteeth]

I almost went analog a few months ago. What stopped me?
The price of new vinyl! Way too much!

 

[Eagle_Driver]

I haven't been buying much new vinyl - but I've been snapping up used vinyl, including some of the super-expensive "collectors item" vinyl.

But I have been buying very few CDs of late, as well. Why? Because the prices of most of them are way too high compared to their sound quality! I would never pay more than 25¢ for many of those new CDs!

 

[eyeteeth]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagle_Driver But I have been buying very few CDs of late, as well. Why? Because the prices of most of them are way too high compared to their sound quality! I would never pay more than 25¢ for many of those new CDs!

touché You have a point, But generally new LPs start at $25 USD for the selections I wanted.

 

[Eagle_Driver]

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeteeth touché You have a point, But generally new LPs start at $25 USD for the selections I wanted.

Fair enough. But many of the selections that I wanted are well worth $250 USD on vinyl (but I almost always paid half that much for those). In that sense, then my hobby is well worth the astronomical price.

As for those same selections on CD... BLEH! The digital remastering engineers simply could not do their job correctly!

Flat, dull, compressed, lifeless, harsh...

 

[Lostlamb]

There are a lot of well kept used vinyls for cheap. I don't buy a lot of new vinyls, but the used market is LOADED!


Just make sure you have clean vinyls....makes a world of a difference!!!

 

[Earwax]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagle_Driver As for those same selections on CD... BLEH! The digital remastering engineers simply could not do their job correctly! Flat, dull, compressed, lifeless, harsh...

Sometimes I wonder if over compression and bad mastering aren't the core of the problem with CD, more than the inherent technical differences vs. vinyl.
Even on my old mid-fi turntable vinyl sounds relaxed and natural.

[Still not enough to get me to deal with the hassels of vinyl too often

]

 

[eyeteeth]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagle_Driver Fair enough. But many of the selections that I wanted are well worth $250 USD on vinyl (but I almost always paid half that much for those). In that sense, then my hobby is well worth the astronomical price. As for those same selections on CD... BLEH! The digital remastering engineers simply could not do their job correctly! Flat, dull, compressed, lifeless, harsh...

I understand both your points. I weighed my willingness to take on the additional expense and effort involved in maintaining analog for the purpose of the greater enjoyment that I know would be provided. It is nearly a no-brainer except for the presence of SACD/DVD-A, which has me hesitate. If I had a phonostage in my preamp I would have taken the plunge. I actually have 4 still-sealed LPs from a few months ago I ordered in anticipation of going analog. It might still happen.

Another consideration is that I am slightly more interested in new music and I am unsure of if todays recordings are primarily analog or digital (I should post & ask). Certainly todays mastering has improved greatly. I'm sitting on the fence a little longer.

 

[ReDVsion]

Question: for CDs I find are overcompressed, will the vinyl mix typically be any better?

 

[eyeteeth]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReDVsion Question: for CDs I find are overcompressed, will the vinyl mix typically be any better?

I'm assuming that if the original recording was on analog tape vinyl will be superior to redbook. What percentage of all master recordings are on analog tape? I don't know? 97%? I'd like to know.

 

[sleepkyng]

30% of my life has been stolen to garage sales, warehouse sales and thrift stores lookin for vinyl


i love it

 

[Lostlamb]

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepkyng 30% of my life has been stolen to garage sales, warehouse sales and thrift stores lookin for vinyl i love it

That's the bestest!

 

[ReDVsion]

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeteeth I'm assuming that if the original recording was on analog tape vinyl will be superior to redbook.

Actually, I was talking about modern rock/metal recordings. The sheer lack of dynamics and the loudness race gets really annoying.

 

[Lostlamb]

Linkin Park on LP really rocks!