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vcap dock question

Discussion in 'Portable Headphone Amps' started by 00lunar, Feb 10, 2009.
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  1. 00lunar
    ye i'm new here and i kindly ask you people here.....

    what is and what it also gives vcap dock?

    and what is vcap?

    thanks

    --lnr--
     
  2. ghostmusic
    VCaps are a type of capacitors. There are two kinds, teflon & oil-impregnated versions. For a thorough explanation, go here:

    V-Cap Oil Capacitors

    The practical answer you might be interested in is in terms of using them with your portable set-up. The most common application of this is for use with iMod (won't work with unmodded iPods). Vinnie from Red Wine Audio will mod the 4G and 5G iPods to rid of the crap that gets in the way of signal delivery, and with the iMod, via interconnect, you can use whatever caps for your iMod.

    The most portable solution is ALO audio's portable dock using Blackgates (although it seems like Blackgates won't be made anymore.) However, the VCap dock will make a noticeable improvement over the Blackgate caps, at least in my experience. One drawback is that there isn't an elegant way to house the VCaps... Blackgates can be encased in a tiny dock connector... you'll have to carry around a box that is roughly the size of a good-sized portable amp (think Ray Samuels SR71A).

    Hope this helps.
     
  3. 00lunar
    well ye..thx mate

    that put some light onto the case[​IMG]

    i was wondering if using vcaps will improve sq.
     
  4. imademymark
    not without an imod they won't. (alter possibly, but improve is highly highly doubtful)
     
  5. 00lunar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by imademymark /img/forum/go_quote.gif
    not without an imod they won't. (alter possibly, but improve is highly highly doubtful)



    i'm going to have 5.5g imod and some decent gear so i was simply wondering[​IMG]

    so i guess if the difference isn't big - i'l stop thinking about it.

    am i right?
     
  6. ghostmusic
    I think you misunderstood imademymark. He means that with an iMod they will improve the SQ. But Vcap with no iMod, it's doubtful.
     
  7. Rico67
    Vcaps is one of the better way to use an imod 5G.
    Imod lod (with black gates) need a lot of time of burning hours to obtain a great result.
    When you use Vcaps, improvement is more "immediate" and improve with time.
    So a good solution if you want have rapidely the improvement of Imod (comparing regular ipod) is to look for an old and used Imod Lod.
     
  8. 00lunar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rico67 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
    Vcaps is one of the better way to use an imod 5G.
    Imod lod (with black gates) need a lot of time of burning hours to obtain a great result.
    When you use Vcaps, improvement is more "immediate" and improve with time.
    So a good solution if you want have rapidely the improvement of Imod (comparing regular ipod) is to look for an old and used Imod Lod.




    i didn't knew that LOD requires burning in.

    well p51 mustang is "ready" after 100hrs but someone entioned that after 800 it is even more superb[​IMG]

    what about burning in time of decent 18awg lod? 100hrs ? 200?
    ehhh my curiosity is sometimes like a curse to me.sry[​IMG]
     
  9. Rico67
    Blackgates need a lot of time to sound good.
    with my experience i'll say nearly 500 hours.
    Vcaps sound great at 200 hours.
    But at the first listening session, Vcaps sound better than blackgates ( even burned).

    My P 51 have improve until 400 hours.
     
  10. imademymark
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ghostmusic /img/forum/go_quote.gif
    I think you misunderstood imademymark. He means that with an iMod they will improve the SQ. But Vcap with no iMod, it's doubtful.



    many appologies, ever since i started doing a public international law module in university i've been using double negatives even in daily speech [​IMG]
     
  11. imademymark
    and yes ghostmusic is right. the vcaps make a difference that's for sure, but how much of it is audible on the go is again questionable. but you know you want one, it has so much of the geeky-music-appeal i'm tempted myself; and i get the feeling you wont be satisfied till you get one to appease yourself as to the differences hehheh[​IMG]
     
  12. qusp Contributor
    [​IMG][​IMG]

    this is my UBER VCAP dock. a more high-end version of the popular one by ALO. I have taken it to the limit and used teflon VCAPs to add uber detail and lightning decay to the highs and upper mids

    this is a more typical one similar to the ALO PVCAP using the same caps, but having a hardwired LOD
    [​IMG]

    IMO they make a substantial difference and I'm never without mine
     
  13. 00lunar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by imademymark /img/forum/go_quote.gif
    and yes ghostmusic is right. the vcaps make a difference that's for sure, but how much of it is audible on the go is again questionable. but you know you want one, it has so much of the geeky-music-appeal i'm tempted myself; and i get the feeling you wont be satisfied till you get one to appease yourself as to the differences hehheh[​IMG]



    hehe so it's all about hype mostly aye[​IMG]?
     
  14. qusp Contributor
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 00lunar /img/forum/go_quote.gif
    hehe so it's all about hype mostly aye[​IMG]?



    what I dont think you are understanding at all; everyone here has said they make a considerable difference; the only caveat being that it depends on how noisy the environment is you are using it in whether it is worth it. that could be said for ANY piece of audio gear. if you cant HEAR the difference; you cant hear the difference.

    it is absolutely not all hype, but there is certainly a lot of hype about it.

    for good reason IMO
     
  15. 00lunar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by qusp /img/forum/go_quote.gif
    what I dont think you are understanding at all; everyone here has said they make a considerable difference; the only caveat being that it depends on how noisy the environment is you are using it in whether it is worth it. that could be said for ANY piece of audio gear. if you cant HEAR the difference; you cant hear the difference.

    it is absolutely not all hype, but there is certainly a lot of hype about it.

    for good reason IMO




    geez...now i dig it[​IMG]

    helpful as always - thanx [​IMG]

    i guess anything that improves sq is good.thanx for answering mates
     
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