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Vali 2 tube rolling

Discussion in 'Headphone Amps (full-size)' started by capt369, Jan 8, 2016.
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  1. Mr Trev
    ECC40 in action
    IMG_20190929_212815.jpg
     
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  2. bcowen
    I'm going for it this weekend. Wish me luck. I have beer ready, and have already selected a new laptop to purchase in the event this one experiences a nasty collision with the nearest wall. :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  3. Keno18
    Good luck, I have my fingers crossed!
     
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  4. Shane D
    Hello. Wow, 312 pages...

    I know this somewhat lazy, but are there a couple of tubes that are generally viewed as "can't go wrong"?

    I have been thinking about getting a Lyr 3, but I am not sure if I am that into hybrid tube amps. I had a Loxjie P20 and was unimpressed.

    I am thinking that a used Vali 2 with the right tube might just let me know if I am a tube guy or not.

    In his ad he said "Also, I have a selection of tubes that I can offer for sale as well including: Telefunken, Valvo, Tesla and GE tubes."

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks.

    Shane D
     
  5. Mr Trev
    If your looking into a used Vali, I'd suggest trying to find one that includes a couple of tubes, hopefully the seller will have already done the hard work for you. If extra tubes aren't an option, probably the easiest way to go would be getting a JJ e88cc. It's not going to match a NOS tube for SQ, but it doesn't really do anything wrong to my ears. And from what I've read the JJ are much better than Electro-Harmonix or any of the other new tubes.

    Assuming the ad you mention is for the used Vali, I'd consider the Telefunken, but can't comment on the other brands. (BTW, don't mention GE tubes to @bcowen - we worry about his blood pressure)
     
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  6. Shane D
    His ad states that it only comes with the original tube, but other are available as options. I don't want to spend much money above the purchase price because I only see two outcomes:

    1) I don't like it/get it and I move on like I did with the Loxjie P20. Don't want to lose too much money when I sell it on.
    2) I LOVE it and I immediately want to sell it and buy the Lyr3. Don't want to lose too much money when I sell it on.

    The little fella has no chance with me.:laughing:

    I was thinking about contacting him and making an offer that includes the amp, one pretty good tube and shipping. But I am SO ignorant about tubes. When he mentions a brand I am sure there are dozens to hundreds within that brand containing lots of good and lots of bad.

    Shane D
     
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  7. Ripper2860
    I've never heard of anyone calling a TF tube bad. Sure there are some TFs that are better than others, but as a whole, they are pretty good tubes no matter the type. That would be a safe bet and a truer test of if you might like it, than the stock tube. The new JJ's also seem to be getting good marks from buyers.
     
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  8. Shane D
    So Telefunken are just a pretty good tube in general? What are JJ's?

    Shane D
     
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  9. TK16
    I have tried a bunch of different Telefunkens, basically sold them all as they were not really my intended sound sig.
    I`ll list the best imo to the least for reference E188CC, E88CC, ECC801s, 6DJ8. Basically you are going to pay more money for better SQ imo. You decide what to buy though in the end. I found all them no warm enough and being too "polite" sounding.
     
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  10. bcowen
    I sold my Vali 2 when I got the Lyr 3....and ended up buying another Vali 2 later on. For the money, just keep it regardless (unless you just hate it, which I think is very low on the risk scale). :relaxed:

    It would be hard to get consensus from this group (or any other, really) on a tube or two that are just "right." Right for them in their system with their preferences and their 'cans? Sure. But too many variables at play to crown an uncontested overall prince. I do think, however, we could reach some agreement on which tubes are just wrong: GE (actually made by GE...there are tubes labeled as GE that were made by others on an OEM basis that can be very good). Philips ECG's. Hard to believe possible, but these are even worse than GE's. These are not to be confused with '60's and earlier Philips tubes that were made in Europe -- most of those are very fine tubes. The ECG's are distinctly marked with that suffix after the Philips brand name. Don't even know where they were made...probably in someone's basement, or maybe they're just relabeled Sovteks (see next). Finally, '90's and early '00 Sovteks. Russian. Garbage. Terrible. Just don't. :slight_smile:
     
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  11. bcowen
    Whenever someone types GE anywhere in this forum, I feel it. Kinda like a disturbance in the force or something. Hard to explain and nothing I can do about it anyway, but I know. I just know. :grin:
     
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  12. Mr Trev
    JJ is another brand. Made in Slovakia, IIRC. Supposedly one of the better "new" tube makers. The possible benefit of going for new tubes is you won't have to worry about test values and such (in theory at least)
     
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  13. TK16
    I heard that some women listen to GE tubes at night, so they can have an excuse like a bad headache so the guy does not get "any". Conspiracy theory here, not related to actual facts.
     
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  14. wabe
    Sorry if this has been brought up before.

    Is there any way to test tubes without an emission tester or other type of tube tester? If not, are there any recommendations for a tube tester that would be functional in the $100 range?

    I got 4 Fotons off of eBay that I think were dead to begin with, and want to know how to verify before I request a refund.
     
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  15. Old Deaf Donkey
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/DIGITAL-TUBE-TESTER-LAMPEMETRE-AUTONOME-ULTRA-COMPACT/263946261441

    or, if you are happy with testing older tube types,

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/TV-11-Superior-Tube-Tester/223696507105 - I use TV=12 from Superior
     
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