Upcoming DAP from xDuoo - the X10!

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by redjohn456, Oct 16, 2016.

  1. RedJohn456
    xDuoo X10
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    So I have been following the development of this DAP, which has since undergone design revisions as well as a name change but its looking better than ever! It looks to be ready for release and I wanted to share some pics of them (found them online on weibo). I will be getting a unit for myself and I will share my thoughts and impressions here once I receive it :)
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    I have been a huge fan of xDuoo since purchasing the TA03, a tube amplifier from their line up, which is a fantastic sounding amplifier and not just for the price. To top it off, it has a reference sound which really surprised me give its tube nature. So that gives me a lot of hope for how they implement the AKM4490 dap in the upcoming X10 DAP! 
     
    Specs from online sources
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    CPU
    JZ4760B
    DAC
    AK4490 
    Low Pass Filter
    OPA1612
    Op Amp
    MUSES8920 
    BUF
    LMH6643 
    Supported File Formats
    DSD, WAV, FLAC, APE, ALAC, AIFF
    THD+N
    0.0016%
    Output Power
    240mW @ 32ohm (THD+N<0.0025%)   
    S/N ratio
    >112dB
    Crosstalk
    >70dB
    Line Output level
    1.7 Vrms
    Line out crosstalk
     >100dB
    Frequency Response
    20Hz-20KHz (± 0.5dB)
    Playback Time
    >9 hours
    Storage
    two 128GB TF / Micro SD Card
    Output
    Headphone, Line/Optical

     
    Edit 1: More pictures, this time I asked someone at xDuoo if they had any photos lying around [​IMG]
     
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    Edit 2: More pics, good find @Petr Repka
     
    Edit 3: Unboxing and first words from myself
     
     
     
     
     
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  2. RedJohn456
    xDuoo X10
    ={Straight out of left field}=
    First Impressions
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    I wanted to take this opportunity to thanks xDuoo for providing this review unit in exchange for my honest and unbiased opinion. I would like to point out that I did pay for shipping and import tax FWIW. 
     
    I would like to preface this post with the disclaimer that I received the unit about a day ago  and as such these are INITIAL IMPRESSIONS and should be interpreted as such. These opinions are mine and mine alone, and I reserve the right to change my opinion as time goes on. With all the pleasantries out of the way, lets get to the good stuff :p
     
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    xDuoo is a brand name that I have heard quite often during my time here at head-fi, and often in conversations about DAPS and DAC/Amp combos. They have managed to amass a an impressive loyal fanbase here on head-fi, as can be evidenced by populous threads about their products. My first exposure to xDuoo was my first ever tube amplifier purchase - the TA03. I have been an ardent fan ever since, closely following the development of X10 and I thoroughly looking forward to exploring how it sounds!

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    Unboxing and Build quality
     
     
    Here are some pictures shot with my potato cellphone 
     
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    As you can see the packaging is eye catching and compact. The front panel is very apple-esque and pleasing to the eye, me likey! The back panel sports technical information with regards to format support, software information and the like. Overall not bad, feels premium and that you are getting your money's worth.
     
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    I found the included accessories to be par from the course (including screen protectors is a nice touch), but I was expecting a bit more, an included case or pouch would have been greatly appreciated! I was pleasantly surprised to discover color image inserts within the manual, loving the attention to detail thus far. 
     
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    The X10 is a purely hardware button driven Digital Audio Player with nary a touch screen to be found, just the way I like it frankly speaking. But we will touch (heh) upon that later. As you cab see above, there are a number of input and output options available. Quite a looker if I say so myself. ​
     
    The main face sports 4 buttons ( <, Back, Option and >) and a giant hard to miss navigation wheel. While I was initially worried before its release, I am happy to say the wheel is sturdy, easy to use and intuitive, but I do wish it had  rubbery surface texture, would help with gripping it. The other ports buttons and ports are self explanatory and self evident.
     
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    1. Headphone Out
    2. Line out/Optical out
    3. MicroSD slot x 2
    4. Micro usb port
    5. Two stage gain switch
    6. Volume Up + Down 
    7. Reset 
    8. Power
    9. Lock
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    Hardware, Software, UI
     
     
    Specs:
     
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    Features:
     
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    The X10 feels durable and rugged, while at the same time premium to the touch; dark, sleek and business like. It sits nicely in the hand and is easy to operate one handed and I am enjoying how ergonomic it feels.
     
     
     
     
    User Interface:
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    The unit is quick to start and turn off, which is always a good thing. UI is smooth and easy to navigate, but you will have to keep your music organized (ID3 tags and all that) to make the entire process easier, or you could just use folder view, which is what I do. I am getting used to the UI but I can easily use the buttons while the DAP is in my pocket to blindly change tracks and volume. Its all about muscle memory and I am still learning about the software so it is early days yet.
     

     
    Long before the X10 arrived I had gone through the X3 thread and I read of the software issues people were having. I expected the worst turning on the X10, to my surprise what I found was an absolutely monster of a DAP that ran without making too much of a fuss. I am sure people will run into bugs as more and more people use it, but by and large I have had a smooth user experience. 
     
    My microSD card was not organized and my ID3 tags are a mess so that's on me, but using folder view makes it easy to get around. The software is prime time ready in my opinion, and surely it will only get better with future updates.
     
    If it is not abundantly clear by now, I love the X10 and I am quite impressed by it. It does a lot of well right out of the box, and it has left me speechless on more than a few occasions. It is remarkable what this little beauty can do.
     
    I am glad I went on a recent binge buying high res music online, because they sound just heavenly on this device. The X10 has a detailed yet musical sound, bringing forward background elements that I didn't even know was there. Yes, things I haven't picked up on my FiiO X7 with the various amp modules. I have been holding back gushing about how great I think the X10 is, but I will say that the line out is so impressive I haven't felt the need to reach for my FiiO X7. 
     
    Listening to the same tracks on both the X7 (stock music player) and X10 (these chinese companies need to come up with better names -_-), I find myself enjoying the X10 more, listening with my precious Havi B3 Pro 1.
     
    So you might be thinking, RedJohn456 you sexy beast what about the headphone out? Well I am glad to you asked! To my non-plebian ears, the headphone out sounds a tiny bit more closed in RELATIVELY speaking but at the same more engaging, more forward. In fact, I can see many people preferring the Headphone out SQ to the Line out, they are BOTH exceptional sounding. Great separation, layering and positioning of instruments, all of which is highlighted on complex orchestral tracks. Very easy to follow along individual elements and all this is done without sounding cold or clinical. The distinct elements are all highlighted on a pitch black background, making for a very realistic and life life rendition of your favorite tracks.
     
    In comparison ,the Line out sound quality sounds a bit more airy up top and paired with an exceptional portable amp such as the FiiO A5, it makes for an amazing portable package that is sure to leave you scratching your heard wondering how something small sounds so darn good!
     
    I am gonna call it right now xDuoo X10 + FiiO A5 = one of the best portable setups for the price - with respect to SQ. 
     
    Now its still early days yet, and as with any other DAP I am sure I will run into more findings, both good and bad. I will post a more in-depth look at the software and features in the upcoming review. But if there is a demand for it, I can do a standalone feature for it and not wait for the review. As always YMMV and we all have different preferences when it comes to music, headphones etc, so keep that in perspective when reading any impressions/reviews, not just mine. 
     
    Happy Listening! [​IMG]
     
     
     
     
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    xDuoo X10 + FiiO A5 
    Silent, deadly and powerfully potent!
     
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  3. musicday
    Looks like Sansa Fuze.Can decode DSD 128 natively?
     
  4. RedJohn456
     
    Not sure, but I updated with some technical specs in the first post. I will ask them directly if they support it.
     
  5. kiler
    It looks really good, if this supports Rockbox like the X03 I'm sure it will be a sucess 
     
  6. RedJohn456
     
    Their reply was that while they haven't extensively tested DSD, DSD decoding will be a software solution vs a hardware one. Hope that helps.
     
  7. nmatheis Contributor
    AKM DAC + MUSES Opamp = I'M INTERESTED!!!

    Hoping to get a listen to this in the near future. Good find RedJohn456!
     
  8. humblesquad
    Really hope UI is improved from X3 at least to rockbox level
     
  9. yacobx
    Sub
     
  10. Thomas De Brito
    How much is it?
     
  11. hkppl
    I was attracted more by the food and the contents on the newspaper (very seldom had chance to read local Chinese newspaper)
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  12. Tamirci
    I am more interested than Fiio's and Shanling's new budget daps.
     
    It would be delicious if it was priced around 100 bucks like X3 was.
     
  13. DrWhite
    Any price info about the dap? i hope price/performance will be high like other xduoo's.
     
  14. Holypal
     
    Around 1000 CNY (150 USD).
     
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  15. DrWhite
    oh ok its a good price [​IMG]
     

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