[tinyman392]

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Lovely argument that, when cables can cost half a new pair of high end iems, the connectors are themselves points of failure (I should know, the socket on my ER-4P came off with the plug...), and the IEMs themselves can fail for any number of reasons (I should know, the etys broke 4 times on me, none of them cable-related failure and once caused by the removable cable design (again, the socket coming off...)

 
Do you have an IEM who's socket broke or failed that wasn't an Etymotic?  How old were these Etymotics? You name Etymotic specifically, the post would have a lot more authority behind it if it wasn't just targeting Etymotic (the problem might lie in that company (and yourself maybe), although I haven't heard too many problems with them). 

 

[audionewbi]

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Lovely argument that, when cables can cost half a new pair of high end iems, the connectors are themselves points of failure (I should know, the socket on my ER-4P came off with the plug...), and the IEMs themselves can fail for any number of reasons (I should know, the etys broke 4 times on me, none of them cable-related failure and once caused by the removable cable design (again, the socket coming off...)

Well ofcourse, there are those who are willing to pay 3 times more than the IEM itself because it is believe it is sonically making a difference. Hell if I paid 3 times more than my IEM alone I would also imagine things.
 
But for the rest of us, considering how I have never broken any of my IEM connectors but I had to change the cable due to to lousy 90 degree male connector I say the odds of damaging the connector than the cable is much less.
 
Anyone it is not an argument, it is an opinion, people like removable cable, now days it is not considered an option, luxury but it is more is of a norm amoung the enthusiast. I respect vsonic, their original design lacked removable cable but they listen to the community and now include removable cable.
 
The etymotic are not designed for endless cable swapping, 

 

[Gilly87]

(-_-) doh... I just bought my Westone W4 last weekend and I thought that this is the best money can buy for 4 driver BA. :confused_face_2:

In my experience, when spending $300+ on an earphone, its usually more about "favorite" than "best."

 

[Joe Bloggs]

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Do you have an IEM who's socket broke or failed that wasn't an Etymotic?  How old were these Etymotics? You name Etymotic specifically, the post would have a lot more authority behind it if it wasn't just targeting Etymotic (the problem might lie in that company (and yourself maybe), although I haven't heard too many problems with them). 

 
It would, but then I would be lying

, since indeed I have only had Etymotic cable-swappable IEMs.  The Etymotics were 10 years old but had just come back from a driver change when the socket broke.  I wasn't cable swapping, the sound had started getting intermittent so I plugged and unplugged the cable hoping to fix the issue.  After a few tries the socket came off.
 
I've actually switched to the MC5, and while I don't know whether they will be sturdier because of the non-removable cable, I do know that it will be cheaper to replace them (about as cheap as sending the ER-4 back for repair once) and I'm liking the sound just as much.

 

[tinyman392]

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Do you have an IEM who's socket broke or failed that wasn't an Etymotic?  How old were these Etymotics? You name Etymotic specifically, the post would have a lot more authority behind it if it wasn't just targeting Etymotic (the problem might lie in that company (and yourself maybe), although I haven't heard too many problems with them). 

 
It would, but then I would be lying

, since indeed I have only had Etymotic cable-swappable IEMs.  The Etymotics were 10 years old but had just come back from a driver change when the socket broke.  I wasn't cable swapping, the sound had started getting intermittent so I plugged and unplugged the cable hoping to fix the issue.  After a few tries the socket came off.
 
I've actually switched to the MC5, and while I don't know whether they will be sturdier because of the non-removable cable, I do know that it will be cheaper to replace them (about as cheap as sending the ER-4 back for repair once) and I'm liking the sound just as much.

Just because it happened to one model of IEM doesn't mean it'll happen for all models that may or may not even use the same sockets/connection systems. Something that is ten years old is bound to break down one time or another.

 

[Joe Bloggs]

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Just because it happened to one model of IEM doesn't mean it'll happen for all models that may or may not even use the same sockets/connection systems. Something that is ten years old is bound to break down one time or another.

 
Except they had gone in and out of repairs 3 times during those ten years.  They were just out of their last repair for a month or two for a driver replacement, which meant replacing the whole unit, housing, socket and all.  To be fair I don't know if they replaced one or both units this time around, but the last two times they broke they stated they replaced both units.  So the socket that broke could not have seen anywhere near 10 years of use (and I'd never changed cables.  The cable did get changed once or twice when the phones went in for repair.)  I'm not saying the socket breaking isn't a fluke, just trying to clarify things a bit.

 

[archercat]

A couple more notes...  
 
The nozzle is smaller than the triple.fi's  there is a ring or barb if you will around the nozzle to help keep the ear cushions on, but the diameter of the bore is def smaller than my triples.  
 
The spinny nature of the connections has no crackle etc... but like someone pointed out, you really don't need it to spin, and  a couple times the cord came out from behind my ear due to it being able to spin aorund.  Not a biggie, but, yeah, they really don't need to spin.
 
Treble energy is there just as much as the triples to me, at first I thought it was less, but that was with poorer quality streaming music. 
 
Details I think are better than the triples, as I said before... even synth bass I can hear the artificial texture of a dubstep drop more clearly.
 
I have not heard any hiss from any of my devices... iphone, laptop, clip+.
 
They fit extremely well, I ran a couple 5K's around the neighborhood over the long weekend and didn't have to adjust them once.    
 
Regarding the V signature... I am somewhat dense about this... but from what I remember of the se425's which were supposed to be flat I think, these have much more bass both in quantity and in extension, and the same for treble.  Don't get me wrong though, they won't compare to the bass in the she3580 etc..  So compared to some I've heard they are relatively V sounding, lol.

 

[archercat]

whoops

 

[tinyman392]

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Except they had gone in and out of repairs 3 times during those ten years.  They were just out of their last repair for a month or two for a driver replacement, which meant replacing the whole unit, housing, socket and all.  To be fair I don't know if they replaced one or both units this time around, but the last two times they broke they stated they replaced both units.  So the socket that broke could not have seen anywhere near 10 years of use (and I'd never changed cables.  The cable did get changed once or twice when the phones went in for repair.)  I'm not saying the socket breaking isn't a fluke, just trying to clarify things a bit.

 
But the fact is that it only failed on the Etymotics...  Nothing else that you've had confirmed yet.  How can you transfer the fact that one model might have a bug = all models will have bugs...  You're generalizing the problem in an unfair way.  It's like me saying that I had 1 pair (I've actually had about 5 total) of cabled IEMs go bad, therefore all cabled IEMs are bad and inferior.  It makes no sense...  It's illogical. 
 
You're basing all your evidence on one model.  Maybe it's a flaw with the model, not all models of that type.  If you had tested say the Westone W4R, the Phonak PFE 232, UE TF10, Shure SE535, etc on top of the Etymotic and had them all fail in similar ways, I'd believe your claim had something behind it.  Since you haven't/can't yet, your claim holds no energy. 

 

[alphaphoenix]

Less derailed content, and more relevant content to the thread topic, please.

 

[tannerbnd]

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Less derailed content, and more relevant content to the thread topic, please.

 

[tinyman392]

UE 900s didn't come today.  They'll come to my house tomorrow...  Only problem is that I'll be 50 miles away until Thursday

I was hoping, guess not yet...  I did get something else though

 

[audionewbi]

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UE 900s didn't come today.  They'll come to my house tomorrow...  Only problem is that I'll be 50 miles away until Thursday

I was hoping, guess not yet...  I did get something else though

congrats, please open an impression, apperciation thread if you can. 
 
Thanks

 

[audionewbi]

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[tinyman392]

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congrats, please open an impression, apperciation thread if you can. 
 
Thanks

 
I will see what I can do about that.  IDK if I'll have the time to keep up with it (after seeing what the Aurisonics thread blew up into XD).