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Aug 29, 2005 at 5:03 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 14

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After purchasing the e4, which was my first IEM, I'vve been satisfied with the sound. Yet, I got the deadly head-fi syndrum, I started to look into the custom IEM world. I've reading the reviews for ue5c, and have few questions:

1. how good is ue5's treble response? I really enjoy e4's treble and wondering if ue5c has as good treble as e4
2.As ue5 being a dual driver IEM, it has better bass than single driver phones, but HOW is it better? Does it have the impactness and attack of the bass as full sized cans does?

Thanks
 
Aug 29, 2005 at 6:35 PM Post #2 of 14
The UE5c will blow away shure e4c in every single area including the treble.

I know UE5c bass is a little bit weaker when comparing to shure e5c, but it is more detailed and more controlled.
 
Aug 29, 2005 at 7:14 PM Post #3 of 14
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Originally Posted by solvexyz
The UE5c will blow away shure e4c in every single area including the treble.

I know UE5c bass is a little bit weaker when comparing to shure e5c, but it is more detailed and more controlled.



Do you have the UE5c's?
 
Aug 29, 2005 at 7:44 PM Post #4 of 14
I haven't been listening too much to my UE-5cs but I just did a quick audition with my home system (listed in my sig).

1. Regrettably, I cannot compare the UEs to E4, since I only own the former. Having said that, I do wish for a just a bit more detail/brightness in the UE.

2. As far as bass, I think you'll be amazed by the bass the UEs can produce. It is bass on the order of the Beyer 770/80, imho, but perhaps with a touch better control than the Beyer. There is a particular cd track I use as my "test" for bass, and the UE just slaughters it while most of my other headphones simply fail/distort.

I hope that some head-fi'er will be able to give you a direct UE-5c v. E4 comparison.
 
Aug 29, 2005 at 8:18 PM Post #5 of 14
I have listened to the E4 and own the UE5c, straight out of the iPod, the UE5c does a much better job with bass and beat the E4 in every category

However, with a good source, the E4 showed an improvement but still the UE5c is significantly better. I believe the main reason is that the UE5c is a dual bore design, it has 1 bore (like a sound pipe) for treble, 1 bore for bass, so the sound is much more detailed.

As for the bass issue, I listen to trance mainly and I am very happy w/ the bass of the UE5c. I actually prefer the UE5c over the UE-10 because I prefer a slight bump from 20-500 hz. The UE5c has quick, impactful, and very well extended bass which makes it perfect for all around use (techno, gangster rap
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, trance etc.) Jazz and classical sounds good too, but the UE10 sounds better with these two genres. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask
 
Aug 29, 2005 at 8:45 PM Post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by rx7_fan
I have listened to the E4 and own the UE5c, straight out of the iPod, the UE5c does a much better job with bass and beat the E4 in every category

However, with a good source, the E4 showed an improvement but still the UE5c is significantly better. I believe the main reason is that the UE5c is a dual bore design, it has 1 bore (like a sound pipe) for treble, 1 bore for bass, so the sound is much more detailed.

As for the bass issue, I listen to trance mainly and I am very happy w/ the bass of the UE5c. I actually prefer the UE5c over the UE-10 because I prefer a slight bump from 20-500 hz. The UE5c has quick, impactful, and very well extended bass which makes it perfect for all around use (techno, gangster rap
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, trance etc.) Jazz and classical sounds good too, but the UE10 sounds better with these two genres. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask



Yes, the bass response is better. But what about the treble?

I'm very interested in this question also. While the e4 has successfully quenched my upgraditis for a while, I might eventually look for customs, and I'd like to know if the ue5c is a viable option. If someone could compare the treble of the ue5c directly to anything, the e4, ue sf5pro, um2, etc, it would be very helpful.

edit: especially if it is done with rock. unfortunately a comparison with rap or techno will not be very reflective of the music I (and a lot of other people) listen to.
 
Aug 29, 2005 at 9:14 PM Post #7 of 14
I can relate to the upgrade-itis bug. I have the shure e 4's and had the super fi pros and now the UE5cs for about a week.

I kept the shure e4s's because i found (unfortunately for my wallet) that they were different enough that depending on both the hardware source and musical content they both have their strenghts.

From my home amp, the shures sound better with acoustic and live music. You hear a much more nuanced live sound. The ue5s sound better on rock (new wave, punk, electronic) in that they just sound more fun and musical.

On the other hand the shures sound too detailed with rock. You catch the bad recordings, distortions, ever so slightly off edits and so forth. The shures are too detailed. The ue5s just sound a little flat on the live and acoustic stuff.

Changing sources, hands down the ue5s are better coming out of my ipod. Nice balanced sound. The shures are bass thin here. Switch to my rio carbon and the shures get the nod. The ue5 sound a little sloppy in the bass.

When I am recording my band, i use the shures so I can catch each goof

So the answer is that it depends and unfortunately the more you learn, the more you can discern and thus the gap in the wallet gets ever bigger.
 
Aug 30, 2005 at 3:35 AM Post #8 of 14
I checked most of the high end custom IEMs frequency response chart but most of them only responds up to around 16khz. Wouldn't this make the sound a bit dull, especially percussion instruments?
 
Sep 2, 2005 at 6:05 AM Post #9 of 14
Hello ! I've just got my UE-5c and it's just amazing...

It's overall sound signatures really alike super.fi 5Pro, with apparent improvement in nearly every aspect. The highs are clearer and the bass is more controlled and tight - but the impact remains. Both SF5Pro and UE-5c is musical and engaging, with a wide soundstage - that is what I love the most.

Thanks god that my UE-5c fits my ears perfectly. I was so worry about sending it back to UE for adjustment or making another ear-impressions... (I live in HK)

IMO custom-fit IEM is obviously at another level compared with universal fit ones. It is more comfortable and better in sound isolation. Better bass response is also expected - it solves any "lack of bass" problem arising from inappropriate fitting or tips from universal fit IEMs. Actually I've read lots of reviews of UE-5c here before ordering mine, I'd like to thank all UE-5c users and their valuable comments. Thanks a lots ! ! !

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Sep 2, 2005 at 6:55 AM Post #11 of 14
Yeah those do look awesome. Nice background in the first picture, too.

I'm interested in hearing more comparison b/w the ue5c's and the sf5pro's, when you get the chance.
 
Sep 2, 2005 at 6:28 PM Post #12 of 14
LOL. misaki206 is your head-fi ID, and you engrave that on your UE box or you edit it?.

By the way, how long did it take starting when you send them the ear impression and getting the UE5c?

I am going to pull the trigger very soon.
 
Sep 2, 2005 at 7:14 PM Post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by solvexyz
LOL. misaki206 is your head-fi ID, and you engrave that on your UE box or you edit it?.

By the way, how long did it take starting when you send them the ear impression and getting the UE5c?

I am going to pull the trigger very soon.



Wow.. misaki206, makes me wish I got my UE-10s in black. I second that UE's 5 are better then shure e5s or e4s. The dual bore and custom fit make the headphones that much better. I went with 10s because I want to have all the detail possible. There is more detail then the er4s I had. But the UE-5s also have alot of detail but the bass is increased.

I am able to kind of get this sound by using the bass boost on the SMv3. I like the ability to have it on for some songs and off for others. But at the gym it is always on.

MHO.. UE-5s are the next step up for the UM2s, Er4s, Super.pro.5's.

As for the details on the difference, I would be interested in hearing about it. UE-10s have better bass when UM2s, more detail then Er4s, and just the sound of a high quality headphone. Something that in Canals you don't think you can have.
 
Sep 2, 2005 at 7:18 PM Post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by chrisfromalbany
Wow.. misaki206, makes me wish I got my UE-10s in black. I second that UE's 5 are better then shure e5s or e4s. The dual bore and custom fit make the headphones that much better. I went with 10s because I want to have all the detail possible. There is more detail then the er4s I had. But the UE-5s also have alot of detail but the bass is increased.

I am able to kind of get this sound by using the bass boost on the SMv3. I like the ability to have it on for some songs and off for others. But at the gym it is always on.

MHO.. UE-5s are the next step up for the UM2s, Er4s, Super.pro.5's.

As for the details on the difference, I would be interested in hearing about it. UE-10s have better bass when UM2s, more detail then Er4s, and just the sound of a high quality headphone. Something that in Canals you don't think you can have.



So have you heard the UE5c's as well?
 

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