UE-10 PRO ~(RIP)~ Shure E4 (Born 6-4-05)

Jun 5, 2005 at 1:37 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 43

aWanderlust

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This story can best be told as a narrative, basically because I’m in to much shock to tell it formally. Please bear with it and read the entire thread if you’re interested, this is more than a comparison in sound quality of two great IEM’s.

I purchased a pair of UE-10 PRO’s about a year ago during the “craze” and loved them like a child, so I thought. As stated by others their sound has a visceral slam that involves the entire ear. Over the period of months they became my primary listening tool while a pair of lonely HD600’s gathered dust. I attributed this worship of the UE’s to their apparently better sound quality and the joy I got from listening to them. However, this euphoria did not last forever.

A few months ago I grew tired of my $1000 friends when I rediscovered my HD600’s. The fresh sound and the clarity that they provide made me distraught about my UE purchase. It was that day that I decided to purchase a new pair of IEM’s despite owning the self proclaimed “Ultimate Ears.” Some would call me crazy, but with a simple recommendation of the Shure E5’s from Edwood a few months after causally looking at several IEM’s, whom also likes electronic and trance music as I do, I decided to try the E4’s. They were a less costly experimentation and I felt they would have plenty to live up to in comparison to my UE’s.

First impressions had me laughing at how much better they UE’s sounded, but the Shure’s excellent musicality and reasonable base was confusing me. After fiddling around, I attained a better fit with the Shures by following a modification I read about where a foamie is combined with the soft tip. I was able to deeply insert the Shure’s in my ear with an amazing and comfortable seal. In fact, they are more comfortable that my custom fit UE’s. Note, I did not use foamies, I used earplugs to fill the inside of the soft flex tips. This is where the plot thickens and some seriously horrifying irony begins to appear.

Earlier today I was listening to both sets of IEM’s, sometimes one pair followed by the other, and sometimes one pair with a quick switch to the other by using only one in an ear at a time. It was doing this fast switching that I finally realized why I had grown tired of the UE’s. Their sound was muddy and even lacked detail, as if were colored by a blind child in comparison to the Shures. Had my ears been tricked for over a year to think that they were better? I’m not sure, but now I love my Shures. I spent the rest of the afternoon listening to little clips of hundreds of trance songs in my library in awe of the sound. Although they lacked powerful bass that the UE’s provided, even in a genre where bass is viewed extremely importantly, the Shures still sounded better IMHO.

Finally, the irony, I was on my way to get some dinner about 2 hours ago when the unthinkable happened. Following my usual routine, I popped in the UE’s, plugged them into my ipod, and headed out of my apartment to get some Chinese food. As I walked down the stairs I’ve navigated hundreds of times before, thinking about how strange the UE’s now sounded to my ears after a day of listening to the Shures, the cable of the left earpiece caught the metal railing of the stairs. The next sequence of events happened in the blink of an eye. Out came the earpiece, detached went the cable, down went the UE, and crush went my foot as I stepped on $500. Irony at its best, or worst.

And then there was one, working headphone that is. Attempting to not shed any tears I removed the right earpiece, folded the cable and placed it in my pants where it still remains. I then picked up the left earpiece, briefly inspected it to determine that the cracked bass driver and severed wires would require an entire new unit to be made, and placed it in my other pocket. I think I will look at my UE’s one more time though the screen on a digital camera as soon as someone curious enough will host a few pictures of the crushed dream for me. I have no want to replace it, however I am sad to see it leave my life in such a tragic way. They would have been nice for the occasional change for my new love, the Shure’s.

I guess the moral of this story is, IEMS are my ticket to mobility and freedom in the headphone world, but walking around with $1000 on your head comes with its risks. I have thought about everything I did today wondering what I could have done to prevent this disaster and even blamed UE for making detachable cables, though they are essential since it makes cable repair easy. In the end, no one is to blame but me, thank god my revelation about my dislike of the UE’s and came before their untimely demise, and not after.

Oh well, finally understanding why I did not enjoy music as much after getting the UE’s is now clear. They were a burden in more ways than one. Heut’ ist mein tag. Today is my day.

-Ryan

-Edit, of course I can. Sorry.
 
Jun 5, 2005 at 1:50 AM Post #3 of 43
What did you use as a source for you UE-10Pro? Did you amp them? made sure you got the right fitting? Because I am SHOCKED
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that the SHure E4c beat the all mighty UE-10Pro in sound quality.
 
Jun 5, 2005 at 1:55 AM Post #4 of 43
I currently use a Rega Planet as a source or Ipod and a Gilmore V2 as an amp or a meta 42.

- I am going to go see Crash at the theaters with the lady friend so I won't be able to reply untill arround 12, but I would really appreciate if someone would host some pics for me.
 
Jun 5, 2005 at 1:57 AM Post #5 of 43
Hi aWanderlust,

I feel for you, man... glad that you still have a pair for portable use, more importantly they sound good for you.

Best of lucks,
Overlunge
 
Jun 5, 2005 at 2:13 AM Post #6 of 43
Ryan:

First let me say that I'm terribly sorry to learn about what happened to your UEs. Even though you quickly warmed up to the sound of the Shures, the broken UE unit still seems like a big loss. I know if it was my $500, I would be horrified. Is there any chance that UE would remake the unit for you at a reduced cost (assuming you wanted them to)?

I must admit your post makes me happy, as I've been thinking hard about buying some E4Cs, but I'm also a bit confused. What is the final verdict regarding sound quality? Initially you said:

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Originally Posted by aWanderlust
First impressions had me laughing at how much better they UE’s sounded


Then:

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Originally Posted by aWanderlust
It was doing this fast switching that I finally realized why I had grown tired of the UE’s. Their sound was muddy and even lacked detail, as if were colored by a blind child in comparison to the Shures.


I'm "shure" the Shures do sound great, but if someone claimed that a pair of $200 E4Cs had better sound quality than the $900 UE-10 Pros they'd probably be either laughed off the board or met with some strong opposition. Are you really saying the E4Cs sound better, or do you think your ears prefer their sound to that of the UE-10 Pros (something I didn't think was possible after reading impressions from UE-10 Pro owners)? Or could it be that the sound quality of the E4C improved markedly from the initial impressions after figuring out how to get the best seal with them?

Also, I'd be willing to help you host those pics. I think others here would be interested in seeing the results of this tragedy...
 
Jun 5, 2005 at 2:36 AM Post #7 of 43
Did I ever tell you about the time I broke my HD650, had to listen to my "Grado SR 60". I don't think I am going back to the HD650 again. I don'
t know the clarity and the detail wasn't there in the Senn.
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Jun 5, 2005 at 2:39 AM Post #8 of 43
You should see my post on my experience, "UE threw me for a loop...". I had similar experiences as you, aWanderlust.

I used the Iriver hp120 but ever since I got the Sony D-EJ2000, the sound has much improved. I am still experimenting with the sound and whether I like it or not. I will be posting more on it.
 
Jun 5, 2005 at 2:44 AM Post #9 of 43
I tried the Shure 4EC at the MacWorld Expo in January and was very impressed with the sound but I thought it was at the ety ER-4 level. After the expo I popped in my sensasphonics and heard vast improvement. More dynamic and much more headspace. I have since aquired the ue10 and this is an improvement over the sensaphonics. Even more headspace, better dynamics, and more detail. So if I was to use some logic, I should find the ue10 to be a big step above the 4EC. Maybe I give them another listen to do an actual comparison.

The other thing to keep in mind is doing direct comparisons. If I listen to the etys and the ue10, the ue10 will sound too bassy and not as detailed. If I go the other way, the etys are very harsh and lack no mids or bass. You need to spend time with a headphone. Listen to them for one day and then try the other the next and see which one you enjoy. Once I adjust to the ue10, it sounds more balanced and all the highend and details start to come through.

Yeah, the custom iems are very hyped. Some of the hype if valid and some isn't. I can see why you preferred the hd600 over the ue10. I preferred my previous hd650/zu to them and now I greatly prefer my Grado RS-1.

I would still see how much they want to fix one earpiece. I doubt they will charge you half cost. Should be cheaper. Even if you prefer the shure's, the ue10 are much better to lay on your side with and you did spend quite a bit of money on them.
 
Jun 5, 2005 at 2:46 AM Post #10 of 43
As long as there isn't a story about you crashing your WRX Sti and getting a Honda Civic. And the Honda having better pick-up, I will read it.

I am going to find it hard to believe that UE10 lack detail or were muddy.

Over detailed maybe. To much bass maybe. More a monitoring headphone. I can believe this. They are made for musicans.


I dunno.. know.. lol..
 
Jun 5, 2005 at 2:50 AM Post #11 of 43
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Originally Posted by iamdone
the ue10 are much better to lay on your side with


How? The sound changes and I feel like I'm going to break them.
 
Jun 5, 2005 at 3:01 AM Post #13 of 43
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Originally Posted by seankonnery
How? The sound changes and I feel like I'm going to break them.


You do? Mine are flush with my ears and only feel a little pressure from the stem. Not too bad. My sensas are better for this but I can still fall asleep with the ue10 in.
 
Jun 5, 2005 at 3:03 AM Post #14 of 43
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Originally Posted by chrisfromalbany
I am going to find it hard to bebelieve that UE10 lack detail or were muddy.

I dunno.. know.. lol..



Actually the ue10 can be a little muddy in the mids on faster rock music. Or at least they sound muddy compared to the RS-1.
 
Jun 5, 2005 at 3:27 AM Post #15 of 43
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Originally Posted by iamdone
Actually the ue10 can be a little muddy in the mids on faster rock music. Or at least the sound muddy compared to the RS-1.


So true...musical genres make such a huge difference. What do you listen to aWanderlust?
 

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