[Welly Wu]

Does anyone here use Ubuntu GNU/Linux 10.04 Lucid Lynx LTS and Opera 10.60 for Linux? The web browser keeps crashing and it is both annoying and surprising to me that it keeps happening randomly. In my experience with Linux applications, NOTHING crashes as frequently as Opera. I removed the package and cleaned out my system only to re-install it and I still experience the same problems. I am browsing the Opera website for possible solutions, but I have not found anything useful as of yet.
 
If you have this same problem, then please chime in and let me know if there was a solution that worked for you. Thanks.

 

[nikongod]

 
Im not sure which version of Ubuntu I have been running at home, but firefox has been sucking.... Knowing me, it probably needs to be updated manually or something silly.
 
Chromium has been running fast and stable for a while. 

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[ujamerstand]

Firefox is like IE in Linux... slow, memory hog, aesthetically not pleasing... Opera is pretty nice, but I haven't test it extensively to experience anything bad yet. Google Chrome has been my default for a while now. It's working well; besides the occasional clash with selinux and loosing access to my profile. (-_-|l|l) Is there a reason why you must use Opera?

 

[Welly Wu]

If you are asking me that question, then my answer is that I prefer Opera for its speed and extra features set such as the built in e-mail client. The problem is that it is unstable and I am still scouring the Internet for a solution to this problem. I used to like Chromium, but Opera has it beat in my humble opinion and it is a compelling web browser to me.
 
The crashes do not occur all of the time. It is pretty random. I am not sure yet if this has anything to do with this specific version of Opera 10.60 or a patch is under development, but I am likely to put up with this glitch and continue using this web browser with the hope that future versions will be much more stable at least under GNU/Linux.

 

[ThePandemonium]

See I am quite the opposite.  Opera is the only stable internet browser for me on 10.04.  Firefox is terrible, Chrome crashed all the time, but Opera is ready to go all the time.  With its new update to 10.60 it now also looks great.  So I do not know what the problem is because honesty, it has never crashed on me.  I am using it now and it is great.  Getting flash to work is a different story.  I have the same problem on all the browsers, it plays I just can't click on anything.  The animation for when you click on a button happens, but it never goes on to the next part of the animation.  I usually have to click pause 20 times on a youtube video to actually pause.  

 

[Welly Wu]

Those are interesting observations. I have had Opera 10.60 crash on me at least 5 times so far. Yet, I still love it the most as my main web browser and e-mail client. I do not have any problems running Adobe Flash animations and I do not have any problems with pausing YouTube videos either. I will wait for the next update or version and I hope that my problems with crashes resolves itself. I have been sending crash reports to both the Ubuntu and Opera teams.

 

[David.M]

personally, i hate Opera.
 
It does have slightly better java rendering than most browsers, but i prefer to open windows seperately (instead of tabs) This is something Chrome and Opera will never provide.FireFox for life !

 

[Zodduska]

 

Ummm... Shift+Click?
 
You can also drag a new tab out of the window and it creates its own (chrome)
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personally, i hate Opera.
 
It does have slightly better java rendering than most browsers, but i prefer to open windows seperately (instead of tabs) This is something Chrome and Opera will never provide.FireFox for life !

Is there a recent Chromium iso or something I can try?  Everything I found when I was looking into a month or so ago was either build it yourself or really old.
 
 
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Im not sure which version of Ubuntu I have been running at home, but firefox has been sucking.... Knowing me, it probably needs to be updated manually or something silly.
 
Chromium has been running fast and stable for a while. 

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[Welly Wu]

I still use Mozilla FireFox because so many websites are coded for it is so standards compliant. My bank, Sovereign Bank, can only be accessed using FireFox and I installed NoScript for extra security. Furthermore, I recently switched from Novell's AppArmor to the National Security Agency's Security Enhanced Linux MLS and I set it to the strict enforcement policy after invoking the fix file relabel.
 
I no longer have any problems with Opera 10.60 crashing on me and I have been using it for a long stretch of time.
 
When I get my new Acer Aspire notebook PC in two weeks, I plan on installing both Windows 7 Professional x64 and Ubuntu 10.04 LTS plus Opera 10.60.

 

[rawrster]

I have opera as my second browser and for some time I had it as my main browser but I did have some issues with it. I slightly remember some random crashes but nothing too crazy so must not have happened too often. The thing that bugged me the most about it was that when I was on some slow networks the web page wouldn't load until it was completely loaded so you wouldn't even get part of the webpage.
 
I've used chromium as well as google chrome but didn't like either much. Chromium was pretty slow and google chrome wasn't too much better. Firefox and Swiftfox work great for me and well they should considering swiftfox was built off firefox.
 
I believe I'm running 9.10 however.

 

[Welly Wu]

You should really consider upgrading to Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx LTS because it is a very polished OS. I had a ton of technical difficulties with Ubuntu 9.04 and 9.10 on my Toshiba netbook that were later resolved on 10.04 LTS. My bluetooth, 802.11 b/g wi-fi, speakers, touchpad, headphone, microphone, and grub 2 technical problems were resolved using a combination of scouring the official Ubuntu community discussion board and 10.04 LTS. Now, everything runs super fast and stable especially when I made the decision to switch over to SELinux MLS (because I understand it better than AppArmor).
 
I agree with you that Chromium and Google Chrome are a bit slower on Ubuntu than Microsoft Windows. I am on Verizon FIOS which is super fast so I don't experience the same lag issues that you do while using Opera 10.60. In fact, Opera is the fastest browser that I have used so far. I just wish it was more standards compliant so that I can access my bank account.

 

[rawrster]

I'll have to look into that. The only issue I have with 9.10 is that sometimes wifi drops and I have to restart to get it back. If that is fixed in 10.04 I may very well consider it but I'll have to look into what it does different than 9.10. Other than that which doesn't happen too often I'm very happy with 9.10

 

[Welly Wu]

I had that problem with both Ubuntu 9.04 and 9.10. The Wi-Fi drops its signal randomly and you have to install the backports to resolve it. However, the problem is not fully mitigated until you install 10.04 LTS and I have not had to install backports to ensure that my 802.11 b/g Wi-Fi will continue to work. The Ubuntu team of engineers never fully resolved this Wi-Fi bug in the 9.x releases. To further complicate the problem, my Toshiba netbook has Bluetooth which operates on the same 2.4 GHz frequency range. I had to install the omnibook-source package and build it from scratch to make sure that it works even when ACPI is invoked. The Ubuntu community discussion forum provides specific solved how-to threads that were very helpful and useful for my particular netbook compatibility issues.
 
Again, you should upgrade to 10.04 LTS as soon as possible to have the best possible Ubuntu GNU/Linux experience. It really does solve a lot of problems out of the box so long as you do a clean installation and stay up to date with the package upgrades.
 
I am going to buy a new notebook PC for the purpose of earning my masters degree at NJIT and I am going to install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x64 on it along with Windows 7 Professional x64. It is not easy finding a notebook PC that is fully compatible with both operating systems.

 

[rawrster]

If by clean installation you mean back everything up and install from scratch I think I'll pass on that. I'll look into it tomorrow and if I do get 10.04 I would definitely just upgrade. Setting everything up is not something I'd like to do again for a while unless I get a new laptop. If it fixes that issue that I may very well get that done. Any idea if that's fixed by installing wicd instead? I remember not having any issues with that dropping signal on 9.04 with my laptop but that was a long time ago.

 

[Welly Wu]

Yes, I recommend that you do a complete re-installation from scratch. It is usually the best way to ensure that everything will work properly regardless of which operating system you choose to use. I recommend that you check out the Ubuntu community discussion forum and research your specific make and model of PC for a possible Wi-Fi solution in 10.04 LTS. I have no idea of wicd will make your Wi-Fi connectivity any more reliable or not. Regardless, there are so many other bug fixes that are present with 10.04 LTS that you should either do a clean installation or upgrade to it. It is the most stable and consistent Ubuntu release that I have tried so far and I started with 9.04.