TSA is useless
Jul 12, 2007 at 3:04 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 26

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Fake bomb eludes airport test

I though the purpose of TSA banning everything is for us to be safer to fly. The irony

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The screeners at Albany International confiscated the water bottle but missed the bomb.


I guess TSA was trained best for detecting shampoo and annoying flyers.
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Jul 12, 2007 at 3:11 PM Post #2 of 26
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Originally Posted by RYCeT /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Fake bomb eludes airport test

I though the purpose of TSA banning everything is for us to be safer to fly. The irony

I guess TSA was trained best for detecting shampoo and annoying flyers.
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The population/business cried out for a solution and they got the typical Washington 'feel good' fix. Design by committee is generally not very effective, especially when the special interests get involved.

Maybe it will get killed off in 10-20 years if we are lucky.
 
Jul 12, 2007 at 4:20 PM Post #4 of 26
Yet another typical political, feel-good, look-at-what-we-did solution that solves nothing, and lets the worthless idiots in Washington claim they did something. And yet, we are no safer than we were - it's just 10x more difficult to fly now.
 
Jul 12, 2007 at 4:27 PM Post #5 of 26
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Originally Posted by beerguy0 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Yet another typical political, feel-good, look-at-what-we-did solution that solves nothing, and lets the worthless idiots in Washington claim they did something. And yet, we are no safer than we were - it's just 10x more difficult to fly now.


on the contrary, it's designed to promote fear, not calm... to make us feel less safe. all the better to chip away at our civil liberties.
 
Jul 12, 2007 at 5:43 PM Post #6 of 26
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Originally Posted by VicAjax /img/forum/go_quote.gif
on the contrary, it's designed to promote fear, not calm... to make us feel less safe. all the better to chip away at our civil liberties.


x2, but who wants to take bets on the lock?
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Jul 12, 2007 at 6:09 PM Post #7 of 26
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on the contrary, it's designed to promote fear, not calm... to make us feel less safe. all the better to chip away at our civil liberties.


Yeah, I guess if one lives their life in fear it would magnify it. To me its just another example of the Govt trying to do the right thing and botching it in the process. I'm more of an optimist then pessimist and things will get sorted out eventually.

As far as civil liberties go, I'll stay away from the political arguments frowned on by the moderators.
 
Jul 12, 2007 at 6:54 PM Post #9 of 26
There are thousands of other ways to mount an attack on American soil. The 911 attack was effective and caused major chaos that will never be forgotten. But does that mean all the focus should be placed on airport security?

In my opinion, you can never prevent a sneak attack because it is such an open country. It's bound to happen again one way or another, just a matter of time for diligent preparaton.

Perhaps the alternative is to eliminate any reasons for terrorists wanting to do it in the first place. Of course then we would be living in a perfect world, not likely to happen.
 
Jul 12, 2007 at 6:58 PM Post #10 of 26
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Perhaps the alternative is to eliminate any reasons for terrorists wanting to do it in the first place. Of course then we would be living in a perfect world, not likely to happen.



lol!!!!


Security measures aren't perfect obviously, but at least we are testing them right now and adapting. There's plenty more awareness and security measures now, getting on a plane and doing the same destruction again is far harder. Still far from perfect.
 
Jul 12, 2007 at 7:43 PM Post #12 of 26
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Perhaps the alternative is to eliminate any reasons for terrorists wanting to do it in the first place. Of course then we would be living in a perfect world, not likely to happen.


Eliminate human nature by eliminating humanity? We're working at it...(this would be my pessimistic side).
 
Jul 12, 2007 at 7:58 PM Post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by Pepsione1 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
There are thousands of other ways to mount an attack on American soil. The 911 attack was effective and caused major chaos that will never be forgotten. But does that mean all the focus should be placed on airport security?

In my opinion, you can never prevent a sneak attack because it is such an open country. It's bound to happen again one way or another, just a matter of time for diligent preparaton.

Perhaps the alternative is to eliminate any reasons for terrorists wanting to do it in the first place. Of course then we would be living in a perfect world, not likely to happen.



You're assuming things about 9/11, you can always read or listen to more info via google video on it.

On topic though, oh how I hate airport security. They took away my water bottle and 1" long swiss army keychain given to me as a little present, but they didn't take away my 2" car key or my belt buckle that I could do much more damage with, the idiocy of it.

Holy ****, have you heard that rule "Passengers are prohibited from carrying containers holding more than three ounces of liquids, gels or aerosols through airport checkpoints." You don't need more than 3 ounces of the right liquids to do what you may want.
 
Jul 12, 2007 at 8:20 PM Post #14 of 26
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On topic though, oh how I hate airport security. They took away my water bottle and 1" long swiss army keychain given to me as a little present, but they didn't take away my 2" car key or my belt buckle that I could do much more damage with, the idiocy of it.

Holy ****, have you heard that rule "Passengers are prohibited from carrying containers holding more than three ounces of liquids, gels or aerosols through airport checkpoints." You don't need more than 3 ounces of the right liquids to do what you may want.




No water bottles has been a rule for awhile now, and why would it surprise you they took your knife away? If you do it properly, you can transport guns when flying no problem. But try to walk on to the plane with a gun and yeah, you'll have problems.


And I highly, highly doubt you could do enough damage with your belt buckle that would cause a threat to the plane. Or I highly doubt you could get your hands on any sort of liquid under 3oz that would threaten the plane.
 
Jul 12, 2007 at 8:32 PM Post #15 of 26
Plane security's a big deal because it's the easiest way for a skilled and motivated loner to kill lots of people with minimal materials. Most other plans on that scale have a potential to only kill a few dozen people (ala VT/Cho). Airplane bombs can kill hundreds.

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Originally Posted by FallenAngel
On topic though, oh how I hate airport security. They took away my water bottle and 1" long swiss army keychain given to me as a little present, but they didn't take away my 2" car key or my belt buckle that I could do much more damage with, the idiocy of it.


Inch long knives are objectively more dangerous than 2" car keys. Belts are arguably more dangerous, but you really can't get good momentum in an enclosed environment like a plane, and strangulation takes time.

On the other hand, 6.9" screwdrivers...
 

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