[Spaceman24]

Will the KS price be the MSRP price or will it be less?

I'm wondering the same! It would be crazy awesome if the Master dipped into my price range, although that would have to be one heck of a price cut lol. At least I should hopefully be able to swoop on the Sabre, especially with any KS specials.

 

[Midgetguy]

Less

That said, will it be lower than MSRP+Discount?

 

[Jackpot77]

Any clues, @bobtrinity?

 

[Walderstorn]

  That said, will it be lower than MSRP+Discount?

 
I hope so, i dont make enough money to buy these at MSRP (if the discount is very low).

 

[Midgetguy]

   
I hope so, i dont make enough money to buy these at MSRP (if the discount is very low).

Well the standing discount for Head-Fi members has been 30% I believe so at least you won't be buying MSRP. I'm hoping the KS at least matches that low price.

 

[Spaceman24]

...the standing discount for Head-Fi members has been 30%...

I was not aware of this hmmmm... Wish I had known when I purchased the Atlas! How do you get this discount if you don't mind me asking?

 

[rnros]

It's 20%. Check the bottom of the first post.

 

[Midgetguy]

It's 20%. Check the bottom of the first post.

Whoops, remembered the wrong number. But yup, that's right, just look at Bob's signature. The coupon code obviously isn't active for preorders because Bob already offers discounts on those, but otherwise, I think it's fair game to use the discount code.

 

[Walderstorn]

So anywhere from 160 to 200 in the ks prob. gonna be a tough cookie for me, hope i can save enough.

 

[Spaceman24]

...But yup, that's right, just look at Bob's signature...

Well there's my problem, I'm on iPhone so no one's signature shows up! Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[linux4ever]

   
Kickstarting in march, shipping around july/august is the last prediction I've seen

Is this really confirmed? Will the Phantom Masters be shipped July/August?
 
And where can I get some more info about the significance of push pull driver design and its merits? 
 
So will this have twin titanium diaphragm dynamic drivers with 2 dual balanced armatures per ear? I looked at the OP and couldn't understand it clearly. 

 

[Gaghiel]

Is this really confirmed? Will the Phantom Masters be shipped July/August?

So will this have twin titanium diaphragm dynamic drivers with 2 dual balanced armatures per ear? I looked at the OP and couldn't understand it clearly. 

Why not wait for KS campaign by end Mar, by then Bob could give us better estimate.

Refer first para on Master, it is mentioned twin DD + two dual BA.

 

[Midgetguy]

 
Is this really confirmed? Will the Phantom Masters be shipped July/August?
 
And where can I get some more info about the significance of push pull driver design and its merits? 
 
So will this have twin titanium diaphragm dynamic drivers with 2 dual balanced armatures per ear? I looked at the OP and couldn't understand it clearly. 

If everything is still on track, Bob's looking to get the Kickstarter going for the Phantom series this month with roughly August being the ship date.
The Phantom Master will be the one with 2 titanium diaphragm dynamic drivers in push-pull configuration along with 4 BAs. So each ear will have a total of 6 drivers.
It takes someone much smarter than me to explain push-pull and I'm sure Bob will put explanations of such things when the Kickstarter happens.

 

[Brooko]

This is for speakers, but sort of covers what I understand about push-pull
 

Two drivers share an acoustic volume of air within a single enclosure.  The best way to take advantage of this alignment is to mount one driver facing outwards with the other driver inverted and facing inwards.  The drivers are then wired so that they are electrically out of phase while remaining mechanically still in phase with one another.
 
Odd ordered harmonics are cancelled out by using this approach according to Vance Dickason.  According to M&K who specialize is push/pull subwoofers claim that this approach cancels out even ordered harmonics.  So take your pick.
 
Either way, harmonic distortion is reduced in that any anomalies or variations in the two driver's spider, cone or suspension characteristics are canceled out by the other driver's inversely proportional anomalies and variations.  The sound is said to be as accurate and pure as it can possibly be with each driver "correcting" the other driver.
 
Optional designs include having the two drivers share the same acoustic volume of air while maintaining the more traditional look of having both drivers fire forward into the listening environment.   Though this does not have the same harmonic cancellation effect, all other characteristics between the two alignments is identical.  

 
Everything I've read suggests the biggest gain is lower distortion and a cleaner sound.
 
But Bob should be able to explain it a little better.

 

[audio123]

i wonder how it fares against the dn-2002 which utilises 2 dd 2 ba too