TRINITY - PHANTOM Series - New thread + WORLDS FIRST PUSH PULL HYBRID IEM!*

[Limitlesspace]

So 4 days of supposed Icarus 3 shipping and not a single report of at least email confirmation, not only here but at other sources. Another lie to buy some time.
Received Hyperions, boy, these are some piece of... cheap iems. Max price 10 dollars. Terrible FR, well, at least have low-end frequencies. How people have the courage to say something decent about them?

 

[Midgetguy]

You can do that.. but it is not your problem if the product you purchased is defective. Why not contact them via email. Am sure they would like to know any qc issues.

Cost. Or at least that's the reason in my specific case. It's like $13-15 to ship internationally, which is what they ask you to do for repairs. My Vyrus 2 shell split open. The driver's okay, just the shell. I paid like $30 for it, I'm not spending $15 to send it out for 2+ weeks for them to basically do what I also intend to do which is gluing the shell back together. It's not worth the cost even if you don't care about the wait.

So 4 days of supposed Icarus 3 shipping and not a single report of at least email confirmation, not only here but at other sources. Another lie to buy some time.
Received Hyperions, boy, these are some piece of... cheap iems. Max price 10 dollars. Terrible FR, well, at least have low-end frequencies. How people have the courage to say something decent about them?

Because they sound easily way better than many $20-30 IEMs I've listened to. Many other members tend to agree with me on that one. They're cheap (well, they were, not anymore), they have great ergonomics, and they provide good sound quality for the money with a fun and bass-heavy, not neutral, sound signature.

If you don't like it though, then that's certainly your right. But for those of us who are curious, what are you listening out of, what music genres, and what sort of music files? The Hyperions work with hip-hop/rap and EDM best in my experience and of course, as with any IEM, crap music files are gonna sound like crap regardless of what you listen with. If you're listening with even a relatively modern device like a smartphone (which I figure you will be), I doubt your device is any issue. The Hyperions are good enough to let you know when the problem is the source and not the limitation of the IEMs. I regularly pick up my Hyperions over much more expensive IEMs on a weekly basis for fun sound with fantastic fit.

 

[Limitlesspace]

Well, i am experienced with quality sound(home/studio stereo, full cans, iems), so i should know what i am talking about. Ergonomics is a positive moment, no doubt. But 10 dollars is the max price they should be advertise for. Not 60-65. So all of the prices at Trinity is just a ruse and all pre-order items we buy go with a real price, no discounts. I will have my final verdict when i receive after a couple of months(years) Icarus 3&4.
I don't see how to quote here, so, about genres i've listened to with hyperion - pop, trance, classic, scores. But i know how tracks are mixed&mastered so i think in other dimension rather than just as a listener-enthusiast. I know frequency profile of the tracks that i examined with and i hear the difference between hyperion and neutral studio rig and i also compared head-to-head with 20 dollars double dynamic driver in-ears and hyperion lost. I only talking about price/audio performance ratio right now, cause it's the only thing that i care in the case of Trinity products. Maybe they will sound better after time, who knows.

 

[guysmileeey]

Received Hyperions, boy, these are some piece of... cheap iems. Max price 10 dollars. Terrible FR, well, at least have low-end frequencies. How people have the courage to say something decent about them?

I just tested them. www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php My hearing tops out at 16kHz and they were able to produce sound at least up to my limit. The bass extended down to 20Hz. Perhaps your pair are defective.

Just checking in hoping to read Icarus impressions. Saddened to see some of you are still waiting on Phantom line orders. Hope deliveries are more timely with this line!

I've been really happy with the Master and PM4, so I decided to spring for the Icarus4 preorder.

 

[Midgetguy]

Well, i am experienced with quality sound(home/studio stereo, full cans, iems), so i should know what i am talking about. Ergonomics is a positive moment, no doubt. But 10 dollars is the max price they should be advertise for. Not 60-65. So all of the prices at Trinity is just a ruse and all pre-order items we buy go with a real price, no discounts. I will have my final verdict when i receive after a couple of months(years) Icarus 3&4.
I don't see how to quote here, so, about genres i've listened to with hyperion - pop, trance, classic, scores. But i know how tracks are mixed&mastered so i think in other dimension rather than just as a listener-enthusiast. I know frequency profile of the tracks that i examined with and i hear the difference between hyperion and neutral studio rig and i also compared head-to-head with 20 dollars double dynamic driver in-ears and hyperion lost. I only talking about price/audio performance ratio right now, cause it's the only thing that i care in the case of Trinity products. Maybe they will sound better after time, who knows.

Are you on mobile? There always seems to be some sort of problem using Head-Fi on mobile. Otherwise, the "reply" prompt in the bottom right of posts.

I'd happily pay $30 for the Hyperions, but I do agree that Trinity's pricing structure is inflated. Would I buy them at the currently stated MSRP? Nope, way too much. I'm not gonna argue with you on whether you're qualified to pass judgment on how the Hyperions sound (you seem like you should be plenty knowledgeable), so we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I just took your final question in your initial post to be more insulting than you probably intended. We're not idiots here; while you might not like the Hyperions, most people around that have listened to them would agree that they do quite a lot of things decently, even stellarly for their original price plus the discount. I've listened to the crap peddled at physical stores and flagships that can pay rent; the Hyperions sit firmly above the peddled crap with ease.

BTW, which dual dynamics did you compare to? There have been so many of those popping up recently I have no guess as to what you were listening to.

 

[JaeYoon]

Are you on mobile? There always seems to be some sort of problem using Head-Fi on mobile. Otherwise, the "reply" prompt in the bottom right of posts.

I'd happily pay $30 for the Hyperions, but I do agree that Trinity's pricing structure is inflated. Would I buy them at the currently stated MSRP? Nope, way too much. I'm not gonna argue with you on whether you're qualified to pass judgment on how the Hyperions sound (you seem like you should be plenty knowledgeable), so we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. I just took your final question in your initial post to be more insulting than you probably intended. We're not idiots here; while you might not like the Hyperions, most people around that have listened to them would agree that they do quite a lot of things decently, even stellarly for their original price plus the discount. I've listened to the crap peddled at physical stores and flagships that can pay rent; the Hyperions sit firmly above the peddled crap with ease.

BTW, which dual dynamics did you compare to? There have been so many of those popping up recently I have no guess as to what you were listening to.

those Gold Plated hyperions too.... why not a gold plated Delta V2

 

[Alex3221]

How people have the courage to say something decent about them?

I think the same, How people have the courage to create an acount only to talk trash about earphones who people like? Hyperions are maybe the best bassy entry IEM on its previous price, even now in the current MSRP they are better than most of $60 IEMs on traditional brands. Personally, Hyperion's sound signature is not my cup of tea, but they surprised me and without any doubt they are very good.
I was rude, but your post is offensive.

 

[JaeYoon]

I think the same, How people have the courage to create an acount only to talk trash about earphones who people like? Hyperions are maybe the best bassy entry IEM on its previous price, even now in the current MSRP they are better than most of $60 IEMs on traditional brands. Personally, Hyperion's sound signature is not my cup of tea, but they surprised me and without any doubt they are very good.
I was rude, but your post is offensive.

I have not been listening to IEMs below $100 category. But if Trinity's products like Hyperion are super competitive still to $60 lineup of others companies like JVC, Sony, etc that says a lot good will for Hyperions.

I'm still using Vyrus V1 (improved Hyperion) since a whole year and still like it for a lot of genres.

 

[Limitlesspace]

Are you on mobile? There always seems to be some sort of problem using Head-Fi on mobile. Otherwise, the "reply" prompt in the bottom right of posts.

No, i was at desktop. Just not gave enough time to figure. I was able to compare them to MEE Audio Duo or something like that. I believe they're discounted for some time. It's not fair to compare to dual driver but price is low and they-re like 6-7mm. And i also remember how other cheap headphones and even mobile headsets sound. If there is burn-in with hyperion then i might be wrong. Or people just getting used to these dips and bumps and think that sound is alright for price.

I just tested them. www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php My hearing tops out at 16kHz and they were able to produce sound at least up to my limit. The bass extended down to 20Hz. Perhaps your pair are defective.

Yes, response seems to be full range, up to 20khz. I meant that there is some unpleasant dips and general response is terrible just like any cheap in-ears around 10-15 bucks (i rule out any horrible and wrong examples), the very signature sound of cheap speakers + some uncommon decent bass level. I just started a little bit worried for their higher line-up and thinking that Trinity is just a marketing gimmick with their MSRP taken out of nowhere. Now i just hope that their mid line at least sounds for their pre-order prices.

I think the same, How people have the courage to create an acount only to talk trash about earphones who people like? Hyperions are maybe the best bassy entry IEM on its previous price, even now in the current MSRP they are better than most of $60 IEMs on traditional brands. Personally, Hyperion's sound signature is not my cup of tea, but they surprised me and without any doubt they are very good.
I was rude, but your post is offensive.

I regged primally to ask people if they are ok with another lie from Trinity about Icarus 3 shipping as there is not a single email confirmation even from UK customers. Yes, it was aimed as offensive comment, cause i thought they would be better and our experiences with entry in-ears are different, perhaps i criticize things too strongly. But i am not the only one with negative opinion about hyperion, it means something is up with them even for an entry pair of iems. I am ok with rude, no worries.

 

[JaeYoon]

No, i was at desktop. Just not gave enough time to figure. I was able to compare them to MEE Audio Duo or something like that. I believe they're discounted for some time. It's not fair to compare to dual driver but price is low and they-re like 6-7mm. And i also remember how other cheap headphones and even mobile headsets sound. If there is burn-in with hyperion then i might be wrong. Or people just getting used to these dips and bumps and think that sound is alright for price.

Yes, response seems to be full range, up to 20khz. I meant that there is some unpleasant dips and general response is terrible just like any cheap in-ears around 10-15 bucks (i rule out any horrible and wrong examples), the very signature sound of cheap speakers + some uncommon decent bass level. I just started a little bit worried for their higher line-up and thinking that Trinity is just a marketing gimmick with their MSRP taken out of nowhere. Now i just hope that their mid line at least sounds for their pre-order prices.

I regged primally to ask people if they are ok with another lie from Trinity about Icarus 3 shipping as there is not a single email confirmation even from UK customers. Yes, it was aimed as offensive comment, cause i thought they would be better and our experiences with entry in-ears are different, perhaps i criticize things too strongly. But i am not the only one with negative opinion about hyperion, it means something is up with them even for an entry pair of iems. I am ok with rude, no worries.

I think it's fine that you don't like Hyperion. It's an iem you just don't like.

But I do hope you might like some of their higher tier offerings.

 

[sososerious]

...But i am not the only one with negative opinion about hyperion, it means something is up with them even for an entry pair of iems...

Your not the only one but I would wager you are the minority, I backed the Hyperion back in 2015 during TAs first kickstarter and the verdict both then and more recently has been very good at their (old) price point.

On the TA entry to mid level the same went for the delta and the technie, the atlas was also largely positive although less so than the delta; things went controversial with the PM4 and ended up around 50/50 if you ignore the QC issues. Masters has been a bit of a rocky road as well.

Then again, the TA sound might just not be right for you and that's fine but maybe it would be fair to be a little more critical in your appraisal, where are the perceived dips and what don't you like about the Freq. Response? As someone pointed out you may well have a defective pair, that's been common recently with other models.

Maybe we can help you out and maybe you can enjoy your iems; but maybe your minds already made up. Dunno but I fear it's the latter.

 

[posnera]

I regged primally to ask people if they are ok with another lie from Trinity about Icarus 3 shipping as there is not a single email confirmation even from UK customers..

I am not ok with it. I'm just so confused. Why say you are shipping again if you aren't? And if you don't have enough stock to get a decent number out all at once, wait until you have some more. We've all waited a long time, and many (including me) don't mind the wait. I just hate feeling like I'm being lied to. Again.

 

[Limitlesspace]

I think it's fine that you don't like Hyperion. It's an iem you just don't like.

But I do hope you might like some of their higher tier offerings.

well, i'm new to Trinity, so i hope Icarus 3 or 4 will satisfy my need in mid-fi pair of in-ears. I'm just a tiny little bit worried after my first impressions of hyperion and their respective price. We'll see.

Your not the only one but I would wager you are the minority, I backed the Hyperion back in 2015 during TAs first kickstarter and the verdict both then and more recently has been very good at their (old) price point.

On the TA entry to mid level the same went for the delta and the technie, the atlas was also largely positive although less so than the delta; things went controversial with the PM4 and ended up around 50/50 if you ignore the QC issues. Masters has been a bit of a rocky road as well.

Then again, the TA sound might just not be right for you and that's fine but maybe it would be fair to be a little more critical in your appraisal, where are the perceived dips and what don't you like about the Freq. Response? As someone pointed out you may well have a defective pair, that's been common recently with other models.

Maybe we can help you out and maybe you can enjoy your iems; but maybe your minds already made up. Dunno but I fear it's the latter.

I am open to Trinity products. Just don't want to fell victim to trivial marketing gimmicks. Maybe they need time to soothe their uneven character. They have to sound V-shaped, W-shaped, U-shaped, Slope-shaped whatever. But not \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/. Signature right now is too much filtered for me. I will give them some time but i have no need in them, frankly. They will be laying somewhere far among all the cheap sets from phones and older working iems.

I am not ok with it. I'm just so confused. Why say you are shipping again if you aren't? And if you don't have enough stock to get a decent number out all at once, wait until you have some more. We've all waited a long time, and many (including me) don't mind the wait. I just hate feeling like I'm being lied to. Again.

Yes, this last update completely baffles me. Why another buying time through trickery. Isn't it enough? Just say and prove it that you will start to ship on 06 July or whatever the real date is. And how they set the date on Friday was really funny to me.

 

[IamMe90]

well, i'm new to Trinity, so i hope Icarus 3 or 4 will satisfy my need in mid-fi pair of in-ears. I'm just a tiny little bit worried after my first impressions of hyperion and their respective price. We'll see.

I am open to Trinity products. Just don't want to fell victim to trivial marketing gimmicks. Maybe they need time to soothe their uneven character. They have to sound V-shaped, W-shaped, U-shaped, Slope-shaped whatever. But not \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/. Signature right now is too much filtered for me. I will give them some time but i have no need in them, frankly. They will be laying somewhere far among all the cheap sets from phones and older working iems.

that's fine man. I and quite a few other members here enjoy the product quite a bit for what it is (not for what it clearly isn't trying to be), but you can certainly not like them. All I'll say is that you'll probably get a better reception and/or more discussion surrounding your posts in the future if you refrain from posting your opinions as if they are objective facts and leveling condescending insinuations about the posters in this thread.

also, i recall being a bit flummoxed after an hour or two of use, but becoming steadily more impressed after a few hours. YMMV of course.

Yes, this last update completely baffles me. Why another buying time through trickery. Isn't it enough? Just say and prove it that you will start to ship on 06 July or whatever the real date is. And how they set the date on Friday was really funny to me.

Believe me, we're all really sick of it. i can't believe anyone is taking any of these updates seriously anymore; until i see hard evidence of significant progress, their word means absolutely nothing to me anymore.

 

[Carrow]

I'm sure I'll never get my Phantom Sabres back and I've just about stopped caring. If they're not here tomorrow I'm absolutely done with TAE.