Trial of Fire! : RSA Tomahawk VS Go-Vibe V6

Mar 28, 2007 at 5:15 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 39

EFN

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Finally, after 120 hours of continuous burn in with load, I am ready to share my impressions on these two beauties. Brace yourself for a long read
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Firstly, I like my music much akin to Baskin Robin's Jamoca Almond Fudge Coke Float
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- clear yet lush, tingling sensations....

I primarily listen to Indie (Shoegaze, Brit, Goth), Industrial, Metal, BritPop and some Electronica.

NOTE:
Please take note that my review has been done exclusively from IEM point of view. I don't have any other headphones that could be used to justify a good listening trial. So please always remember that both of my amps has been specifically tuned by the makers for IEM and IEM use only


My review was based on listening to the following artists/bands:
- KRAFTWERK "Minimum - Maximum" SACD Hybrid album
- Love and Rockets "Express (Expanded)" album
- SWANS - "The Great Annihilator" (Remastered) album
- CURVE - "Doppelganger" album
- jesu - "Conqueror" and "Silver" albums
- Sonic Youth "Dirty" album
- The Smiths "The Very Best of The Smiths" album
- King Diamond "Charon" and "Abigail" (Remastered) songs
- SCORN - "Vae Solis" album
- My Bloody Valentine "Loveless" album
- The Sisters of Mercy "A Slight Case of Overbombing - The Greatest Hits" album
- Joy Division "Unknown Pleasures" & "Closer" albums
- ISIS "Oceanic", "Panopticon" and "In The Absence of Truth" albums
- The Cure "Disintegration" and "Bloodflowers" albums

Rig Used:
- ETYMOTIC MicroPro ER-4P (Permanent pod for S conversion)
- Panasonic SL-CT720 PCDP (Line Out)
- Microsoft Zune (Headphone Out)
- Custom Canare ICs with Canare F12/StarQuad Twisted Pair
- Cardas HPI 6"
- Norm Dalgarno's Go-Vibe V61.2a 8620/8610 OpAmps (2.8 Gain) http://www.go-vibe-headphoneamp.com/Home_Page.html
- Ray Samuels Audio EMMELINE "The Tomahawk" (Hig/Low Gain) http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/index2.html

Sources:
CDs
NERO AAC 320VBR LC (For zune)

NOTE:
Both Ray and Norm are true gentlemen when it comes to customer service. Ray's no compromise policy on quality and communication and Norm's personalized attention to each of his customers - simply superb! and those attribute puts heavy weight on my decision to buy both amps

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Method of Testing:
- A/B Tests repeatedly between two amps either with my zune or PCDP
- One full day of listening to GV6 and another day for TH vice versa

The Looks:
Both amps will appeal massively to those who appreciate neat piece of workmanship. For me the uber black no frills industrial look played some role in my decision to buy them. As per expected from Ray, Tomahawk (TH) is second to none when it comes to small details - everything from the outside to the inside is finely crafted. Not to be left behind, I am equally impressed with the work of Norm Dalgarno on the Go-Vibe V6 (GV6) - simple to the core and fully functional to the very last bit - some may say simplicity is sexy
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Of course when talking about size, TH is a clear winner. But does not mean that GV6 is big either - both are still smaller than a Credit Card in surface width

One thing that I liked so much about the GV6 is the solid Volume Knob which is very sensitive yet firm. With this regard TH is a bit finicky with the Volume Knob because they are so tiny, so when pocketed one have to fiddle properly to get to the knob - but then again TH was meant to be tiny

The Powerplant:
GV6 is powered by a MAHA 230mA 9.6V NiMH (Built in rechargeable circuit)
TH is powered by two Energizer Alkaline AAA batteries

Bass/Lows:
Bass is superb on both! But it has be understood that by most standard both amps are not considered a basshead amp at all. At first I was hard pressed to decide which one sounds the best in bass, but after barrages of test I aknowledged that both possessed high degree of quality in bass reproduction. Low bass presence and vibes can be audibly heard and midbass never failed to groove my head along with the tunes. No flabbiness at all and extends deep as far as ER-4S would allow (which is quite deep
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). When there's bass emphasis in the tunes, it's truly engaging. So, are they equally matched in this department? yes and no. Even from the beginning, TH has a slight edge in bass presence and GV6 is a step below - what this means is that I can tell immediately the bolder characteristic of TH bass compared to mellowed bass of GV6. Again I stress that quality wise both have excellent bass and in that regard they are equal. But most importantly is that both are capable of adding that extra oomph with bass slam that I desperately needed with my ER-4S.

Treble/Highs:
This is the hardest part. Honestly, at this stage I could not decide which one is superior. Both fulfilled my need for intricate treble extension (again not a problem with ER-4S), and what I seek in this department is an amp that have the ability to tame ER-4 treble sparkle which at times can introduce fatigue - BOTH delivers! Plugged to my Panasonic PCDP lineout, I can enjoy truly lush highs which reminded me of my long gone well used Alessandro MS-1, WOW! Both have details preserved and yet not piercing. Hard pressed to decide which one suits me, I switched into yet even more critical listening mode which includes waking up in the middle of the night in total silence and darkness and start A/B ing both back and forth - then I realized that after 72 hours of burn in for both amps, TH have that distinctive chirpiness/airiness and GV6 proved to be the on the lusher side - but both remained very tamed and both extends equally high with no annoying sibilance

Mids/Vocals:
From the start, I can clearly hear bolder presentation on the TH. Compared to GV6, TH have that sweet rounded feel and GV6 remained reserved but feels just right as well. Again I can confirm that both delivers quite well here. But most importantly, due to the reserved nature of GV6, female vocals are less prone to the "SSSS" sibilance. It's a tough call for me because I could not decide which one I like the most - the solid mids of TH or the soothing presentation of GV6, yeah I am in trouble now
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Separation/Soundstage:
Yes, we are at the most important part now. Being a full time IEM user, I am deprived of good soundstage. But any improvement that can be had, I will work my way to get them. Yet again, both did not disappoint me. Unlike my previous LDM+ and 2134 CMOY, I can never hope to have some semblance of Soundstage - but both TH and GV6 gave me that much needed space. OK, the difference is in the way soundstage is shaped. For a start, both have equal prowess in separation which allows for good staging. But GV6 surprisingly have more air/space towards the front left and right while TH is trully rounded. One additional thing that I noticed (heard/feel) is that TH is quite audible in segmented layering which is very-very nice, while GV6 has that superimposed layer on top of the other which resulted in seamless staging - very nice as well.

My priority with staging is crowd control. With the type of music that I listened to which is always fast paced and complex (specially CURVE, SWANS, The Jesus and Mary Chain etc), I want them to be well managed and presented without dazing my mind
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Again both delivers! equally superb crowd control and I don't have problem keeping up with the fast paced tunes

Transparency/Imaging:
Not much can be said here except that transparency is equally superb with both amps. For me it's quite simple, the moment I am able to immerse myself in the music and forget that I am wearing an IEM, that's transparency. With superb transparency comes imaging - the all important ingredient in enjoying music yes?

Overall Tone/Timbre/PRAT:
We have come to the most delicate part. Admittedly, I would expect TH to outclass GV6 in this department, but GV6 has proved herself to be quite a contender nonetheless. Firstly, TH (after 72 hours) developed and produced full sounding tone at fidelity level I have only heard from a full sized decked CDP at the record shop that I normally purchased my CDs. This is from the Lineout of my Panasonic PCDP. Not to be left out, GV6 also did not disappoint me by projecting softer tone/timbre/nuances which may appeal to a great number of people (including me). Both are equally matched in PRAT, mind boggling speed and resolution that I honestly did not expect from small amps
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Percussion, Decays and Echoes:
Yet again both scored evenly on percussions. I was floored by the intensity of drumbeats in ISIS three albums, one can literally see the pounding drumsticks. But scrutinized deeper, I can tell that TH has better control on drum and cymbal decays - a lot more solidified than GV6's swishing after effects. The mesmerizing point when there's echoes to be felt during transition between beats - audible on both amps. Truly engaging

Neutrality:
Neutrality is very subjective to the listener's ear. For me both amps scored high on neutrality scale - strong in highs, deep on lows and solid in mids (despite GV6 mellow nature)

Transients and Dynamics:
This is perhaps the strongest element of TH, fed with uncompressed lossless source from my PCDP Lineout, I can experience full bodied tunes with all the dynamics in the right place, transients interchanged and evolved effortlessly - very convincing. GV6 on the other hand also hold steadfast but again due to the overall laid-back nature, could only pace up to TH dynamics range by a breath - which is quite close - VERY close. Surely both succeeded in satisfying my need for higher fidelity as can be expected from a portable/transprotable rig - no doubt about it

Conclusion:
Well there you go, I stand right now in utter undecided state at which I liked the most. But my gut tells me that I may ended up with the TH as my full time amp because of the size and battery life (projected 400 hours of uptime) as opposed to GV6's 30 hours uptime and slightly heavier build - I am a very portable Audiophile so I only rely on my portable/transportable rig. When I placed orders for both I was thinking that I may be selling my GV6 as soon as I am able to compare her with TH but I was wrong - I LOVED BOTH!

Depending on the budget, I would not hesitate to recommend both amps for IEM use. Phenomenal synergy between these amps with ER-4S that I am very sure of. If you are stuck with budget below $150, do not hesitate to get GV6, but if you have spare cash then go for the the cult like novelty amp that is a Tomahawk. Priced at $295, Tomahawk is not valued for the look and build alone - this is one very serious High Definition amp for the very demanding and it does not come cheap. Honestly I don't mind paying a total of $385 to get my Tomahawk delivered all the way across the continent. On the same note, IMO GV6 is the best ever deal anyone can get for a truly sweet amp for under $150 (consider accessories needed)

Ultimately, IMO both can be classified as laid-back amps, they never gets overly funky with the output and for me this is paramount. To be even more specific, TH is definitely the livelier of the two with bold mids and lows and this could hold sway to which suits the listener taste the best. But time and time again I find myself getting very fond of my mellower GV6 which allows me for marathon listening session (until I fall asleep
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But the final trial will begin in the next few weeks when my RedWine iMod 60GB arrive
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and on top of that I will be expecting my overly delayed SuperMicro IV - The ones with the best synergy with my RWA iMod will surely be keepers.

Thanks for reading. Hope this helps
 
Mar 28, 2007 at 5:28 AM Post #2 of 39
Thanks for the comparo! Definitely makes me feel much more excited as I am in the crowd looking to pick up a GO-Vibe V6! I have one question, however, would you mind posting a few pics side by side and stacked of your go-vibe with your zune? I would really like an idea of the size of the amp in relation to my 5.5gen ipod. Thanks.
 
Mar 28, 2007 at 6:27 AM Post #4 of 39
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Originally Posted by EFN /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Bass/Lows:
Bass is superb on both! But it has be understood that by most standard both amps are not considered a basshead amp at all. At first I was hard pressed to decide which one sounds the best in bass, but after barrages of test I aknowledged that both possessed high degree of quality in bass reproduction. Low bass presence and vibes can be audibly heard and midbass never failed to groove my head along with the tunes. No flabbiness at all and extends deep as far as ER-4S would allow (which is quite deep
etysmile.gif
). When there's bass emphasis in the tunes, it's truly engaging. So, are they equally matched in this department? yes and no. Even from the beginning, TH has a slight edge in bass presence and GV6 is a step below - what this means is that I can tell immediately the bolder characteristic of TH bass compared to mellowed bass of GV6. Again I stress that quality wise both have excellent bass and in that regard they are equal. But most importantly is that both are capable of adding that extra oomph with bass slam that I desperately needed with my ER-4S.



Good review!
My only concern is that you are just not able to hear the bass the GV6 delivers, and believe me, it delivers IN SPADES!! I am thinking either A) your IEMs just don't have as full a bass response as other multi driver IEMs, and B) perhaps there were some impedance matching issues.
I can speak from personal experience (and I thought the GV5 had bass, but lacked midbass) that the GV6 paired with, how should I put it, "the proper" set of IEMs and cables will deliver enormous amounts of bass.
Also, keep in mind (although for you it's really not an issue since you like the portability factor), but the Go Vibe V6M becomes more of a desktop amp than a portable amp when combined with the Elpac 24V. I would like to see how your review would differ if you had the V6M model and used the Elpac.
I'm not discounting the TH on its abilities and for the limited voltage it utilizes; I'm sure it's one heck of a little amp..... I guess I'm not so concerned with portability as sound quality, and I think the GV6M being a portable amp, yet also being able to be used as a desktop 24V amp with a much more detailed and impactful presence would make it my personal choice, not to mention the GV6M + Elpac can be had for around $140, which rivals many of the several hundred dollar desktop model amps.
Personally, I wish we could get all of these amps with DACs built in, using top class Burr Brown DACs and OPAmps, but sadly, those seem to come at a higher price tag... around $800+ (or more if you include their $330 power supply) from Headroom's Desktop Line.
 
Mar 28, 2007 at 6:32 AM Post #5 of 39
Nice comparison!!
Sounds like the amps are very close over-all.

Will Norm ever release a V6 with socketable OP amps? I still use a V2 and really like it for its simplicity and roll-able OP amp.
 
Mar 28, 2007 at 8:23 AM Post #6 of 39
Madgravity34:
Thanks mate
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tamahome77:
I will post the stacked pics later. Cheers.

IPodPJ:
IMO, GV6 deliver enough bass to keep things balanced, it's just that TH bearing the signature "Ray Samuels" sonic characteristic seems to bear slight weight on bass presentation - one could not go wrong with both because both still project bass as full as it can be. And if you have not listened to ER-4S before I can share wth you that ER-4S (even with single amature driver) can deliver heady fusion of bass and so deep it is almost unbelievable - but it all depends on amplification and source

kramer5150:
They are very close. But sonically TH is ever slightly intimate and GV6 very relaxed. I think I am falling in love with RSA signature, I could not deny it. But GV6 comfort zone is very seductive
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Perhaps I can find a compromise to use both in different situations

EDIT:
I have added some info on percussions, decays and neutrality on the original post
 
Mar 28, 2007 at 2:12 PM Post #7 of 39
Good information...
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It's "rumored" that the TH's sound changes drastically (for the better) after 500 or 600 hours... will you be revisiting the comparison of the two after the TH matures? Now that would be interesting to read...
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Mar 28, 2007 at 3:41 PM Post #8 of 39
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Good information...
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It's "rumored" that the TH's sound changes drastically (for the better) after 500 or 600 hours... will you be revisiting the comparison of the two after the TH matures? Now that would be interesting to read...
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That was my experience. The TH is now (after 700 hours) close to the Hornet.
 
Mar 28, 2007 at 4:19 PM Post #10 of 39
Wow...Great review. I really can't wait until I get my GoVibe 6 now!
 
Mar 28, 2007 at 4:50 PM Post #11 of 39
Fantastic review! Gives me hope that my bike-commute to work may soon be transformed to audio nirvana, without me having to sell my first born to get a decent portable amp...
 
Mar 28, 2007 at 4:55 PM Post #12 of 39
Great comparo! I've been wondering how the GV compares against the RSA amps.
 
Mar 28, 2007 at 5:08 PM Post #13 of 39
My TH has now more than 600 hours and I believe the bass has become very similar if not identical to the Hornet bass. A big difference from the bass at the 300 hours mark. I find both amps very similar now in this department, a total surprise for me. Next weekend I will try to compare them for a few hours with different headphones.
 
Mar 28, 2007 at 5:57 PM Post #15 of 39
EFN sure knows how to write a review!

its not that surprising that the two amps performed similarly, I guess that the diminishing returns on amps come quickly.

EFN, please make sure that you do a comparison between the supermicro and the other amps when it comes!

Great review!!!
 

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