Toronto meet, Sunday August 7th
Aug 8, 2011 at 1:11 PM Post #2 of 14


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Totally looking forward to photos!
 


Me too!
 
One photo in particular.
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Aug 8, 2011 at 4:33 PM Post #5 of 14
Here's my humble report with headphone impressions!
 
I don't have perfect hearing. To better understand my impressions, here's my audiogram:
 
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I have a noticeable middle frequency dip. However, this graph approximates the Fletcher-Munson curve, so I'm still within normal parameters. I also have an asymmetric head, with my left ear being a bit smaller than my right and being positioned differently. You can spot that the left ear canal volume is smaller than my right. That means that if I position headphones flush on my head, the sound usually localizes a bit to the right of my head. I can work around this a bit with full-sized headphones, but I can't wear earbuds/IEMs as a result.
 
This was my first meet. Not knowing what type of input the meet would accept, I burned two CDs with a variety of tracks from a variety of genres. Imagine my surprise when I saw everyone with laptops and USB ports! I could've just brought a USB drive with all the tracks. Anyway, I played clarinet and was in numerous bands for about 10 years, plus I attended numerous concerts at Roy Thomson Hall, so there was a fair bit of lossless orchestral and jazz material. There was also a bit of eurobeat ripped from vinyl records from the mid-1990s. I specifically chose this era because it was during a time where sound quality mattered to engineers; loudness wars and compression weren't at the forefront. Lastly, I included some overcompressed material just to see how well the high-end headphones could cope.
 
One thing I noticed at the meet was that almost every single headphone felt like a vicegrip. I was deathly afraid of damaging others' equipment, so I didn't adjust any of the headbands to compensate for my above-average head diameter. This probably had a negative effect on many of the headphones I listened to. I prefer my headphones to only lightly touch my head.
 
Headphone impressions:
 
SR80 (grill mod) vs SR225i (7-hole vent mod) vs HF1 vs HF2 vs HP2: So many Grados in one room! I had to try them all out and compare, since most people only make assumptions about each Grado model. The SR225i was mine, punched with 7 holes for extra bass. The SR80 and HF1 immediately sounded inferior, so I didn't spend much time on those, though the HF1 does sound better than an unmodded SR225i. The HF2 definitely had the most bass, but almost a bit too much. It also lost much of the midrange sparkle I was used to, and it weighed too much. The HP2 didn't sound like a modern Grado at all. I found the sound with flats unacceptable so I tried them with bowls. Better, but they still didn't really wow me considering how much they command on the secondary market. Perhaps that's a good thing because they're supposed to be more neutral. Overall, I couldn't consider any of them to be an outright winner over the SR225i, though that might've changed if there was an RS1 in the mix, or if I spent more time with the HP2.
 
ESP950 on Stax amp: Pretty good first impression, but unfortunately I couldn't critically review it, as it really needs a quiet environment because I heard too much talking around me. In addition, charliex warned me about the fragile headband, so I simply wore it without any adjustments. I'd love to spend more time with it if I could.
 
ATH-M50: This kept getting recommended on GameFAQs so I wanted to hear what it was all about. This is a great headphone for the price, although being closed, it does have a midrange veil and isn't as airy as I'd like. Still, I can see why it's a recommended starter headphone for those who aren't as discerning as the people here.
 
LCD-2: After hearing much buzz about this, I couldn't wait to try it on. This was, in my humble opinion, the disappointment of the meet. First off, the thing weighs like a brick. I had purchased the SR225i over the SR325is because I thought the latter was too heavy. This thing weighs more than three times as much as the SR225i. Second, and I couldn't believe this, but it had less soundstage than a Grado with bowls. Third, due to my middle frequency dip, the headphone sounded terribly dark and unnatural on Pavel's rig, like there was a piece of paper between my ear and the driver. Later I tried these on someone's Headroom Max amp with the filter switch on "bright" then "brighter". Brighter improved things a little but that still didn't solve the sound congestion and weight issues, which ruined any enjoyment that I might have had. It was amazing to see everyone around me react to this headphone positively, yet I was probably the only person in the room who was outright disappointed. The HD800 at Bay/Bloor Radio sounded better than this. I wouldn't pay $300 for this headphone, let alone $1000, and yes, that means I would even take my SR225i over this. Call me crazy, but this thing had no redeeming qualities.
 
HE-6: I liked this a lot better than the LCD-2, so the guy who owns this should be happy. It's still a bit too heavy for my tastes, though, so I wouldn't personally want to own one.
 
K1000 bass heavy: Wow! This was beyond amazing because it dealt with all of my personal hearing issues. 1) It's light, 2) It didn't grip my head, 3) The hearing balance issue was compensated by me moving the left driver out a little more, which confused charliex at first, since anyone who looked at me would've spotted the asymmetry. Oh, and of course, the sound was wonderful bliss. This was my favorite headphone of the meet, and it was so good I went back to it two more times before the meet was over.
 
Jecklin Float: I should've listened to these for more than a minute, but they were waaaaay too uncomfortable. Of course, I did pose with them.  =D
 
Anyway, thank you very much for allowing me to come to the meet. I had a very good time.
 
Aug 8, 2011 at 6:56 PM Post #6 of 14
I had fun at the meet. The previous one I went to at UFT sometime in 2005 or 2006 seemed quit different. I'll upload the photos from the second half of the meet, soon, or maybe eventually. Hopefully next time someone will bring HD800's to the next one for a nice comparison.
 
Aug 8, 2011 at 8:43 PM Post #7 of 14
thanks to the gracious host for organizing thy meet.  curious, where does one get those banana flavoured popsicles?  they made me happy like bacon, fun times.
 
Aug 9, 2011 at 3:13 AM Post #9 of 14
Well no frills has those popsiciles on sale for 2.88 for the box quite often atleast in my area. Or they are usually around 4 bucks, and can be found at korean supermarkets. Like the big one between bathurst and christie on bloor. They are quite addicting.
 
Aug 9, 2011 at 2:32 PM Post #10 of 14
My first head-fi meet, it was awesome. Was good to see so many like minded people at the same place. 
 
Tried a few electrostatic headphones did not like them much (did not spend much time on them). The HD600s were awesome - I really understood what recessed mids mean by A/B-ing HD600s and DT990s.  
The DT990s sounded very good with the LDMKIII, also tried the E7/E9 combo but I prefer the LDMKIIIs. The Matrix DAC and Headroom maxed out Head amp was nice and clean sounding and were able to drive the DT990s to comfrotable levels. 
 
Will be getting the little dots this month and will have to start saving for the Matrix DAC and HD600.
 
Thanks Pavel for organizing the meet and thanks guys for bringing out all the equipment and letting a beginner to try out stuff.
 
-Karthik
 
Aug 9, 2011 at 10:18 PM Post #11 of 14
As I stated earlier, I really enjoyed the meet and was pleased to see people trying out my equipment and their reviews.
Pavel's monster system was to die for.  I'm still working him for his Joe Grados, but alas believe he'll be taking them with him to audiophile nirvana.
Listening to my LCD-2s through the few sources that were at the meet, I'm still satisfied with my SAC AKG 1000 and my HeadRoom maxed out amps.
I was hoping to have my latest purchase available at this meet, but wouldn't you know my Baby Orpheus (HE-60) arrived from Australia the very next day,
and I haven't had them off my head for two days now - like wow!! Definitely worth every cent.  I'm sourcing them from my Stax SRM T-1, and although better
amplification is recommended, the SRM T-1 with the HE-60 tonally was a nice match. It gave good weight to the bass , full and punchy when desired,
And the HE-60 had excellent micro-detail and sound staging.  My goal is to eventually get either an SRM-717 or KGSS to reach its full potential.
I'll be bringit it to the nest meet for sure.
Thanks to 'MickeyVee' for introducing me to Dead Can Dance. World music made for headphones, beautifully engineered. 
I'd appreciate any more music along those lines or the french band 'Air', David Axelrod, Terry Callier etc - looking for very well engineered
progressive/world/ambient/blues based and listenable.
Someone at the meet was looking for an Little Dot Mk III - just letting you know there are a couple up for sale on Head-Fi now.
Anyways - til the next meet :)
 
Bryan
 
 
Aug 21, 2011 at 12:45 AM Post #13 of 14
Wish I could of came. Didn't expect a meeting around this time. Any chance on a date for the next get together?
 
Dec 10, 2011 at 1:08 PM Post #14 of 14
Wish I was closer.
 

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