average_joe
Headphoneus Supremus
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This is not a contest, this is a gathering of data. Have you read other people's comments? What do they say (all of them, not just select few)? And I am also using data gathered from other threads. Sorry if you feel this is a contest or competition, it is not. I am working on my comparison review of the Copper, which includes both the CK10 and FX500, so you will be able to know more about my specific thoughts on the FX500 (if you care to read). But, all that really matters for this thread is what the majority says!
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Yes, clarity. How easy is it to hear the details? The IE8 does have the details, they are just hidden under a veil (without EQ), but if I pay attention, I can hear them.
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Thank you for your vote...I will add it to the chart when I can.
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As of right now, I see this as not the norm. Who else agrees?
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Thanks, noted!
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We should talk about this via PM or email...
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I am running FLAC and decent DACs with good portable amps. But if your average consumer spends $400 on an IEM, it should sound good with a DAP, as most people don't carry around amps. I have not actually ever seen one in public (other than meets and mine). And some benefit more than others from amping, but you can't tell everyone that buys a top-tier universal to also get an amp.
| Originally Posted by midoo1990 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Ok Joe,you win,I can't attack the ck10 FOTM nor do you accept my point of view,and by the way you didn't answer my questions in the post and you missed most of it.Enjoy updating the table with what you only prefer and hear. P.S:I won't respond to this thread again. |
This is not a contest, this is a gathering of data. Have you read other people's comments? What do they say (all of them, not just select few)? And I am also using data gathered from other threads. Sorry if you feel this is a contest or competition, it is not. I am working on my comparison review of the Copper, which includes both the CK10 and FX500, so you will be able to know more about my specific thoughts on the FX500 (if you care to read). But, all that really matters for this thread is what the majority says!
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| Originally Posted by HONEYBOY /img/forum/go_quote.gif Alright guys am willing to learn what is meant by X headphone making Y headphone sound veiled in comparison. For instance I do notice a slight bump in clarity when I switch from my IE8 to say a TF10 or CK10 directly. However, to say that the IE8 sound veiled in comparison, am not sure I'll say so. Anyone care to comment? By the way we're on topic I hope. We're talking about "top tier" universals here, thanks! |
Yes, clarity. How easy is it to hear the details? The IE8 does have the details, they are just hidden under a veil (without EQ), but if I pay attention, I can hear them.
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| Originally Posted by Hentai11 /img/forum/go_quote.gif @average_joe Top-Tier: FX500, TF10 Near-Top: SE530 (treble rolloff, too-polite bass), IE8 (ginormous midbass, needs more instrument detail) No. In addition to the final sound quality, I'll also consider the amount time I spend squinting at my equalizer to get there. This is my beef with the Golds; great sounding phones, but it was such a slog bringing the sound out that when they started sounding good, I was physically startled. |
Thank you for your vote...I will add it to the chart when I can.
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| Originally Posted by Pianist /img/forum/go_quote.gif @average_joe: I disagree that SE530 has forward mids. Most Westones, such as UM1, UM2, UM3X and ES3X have forward mids, as well as the Ortofon e-Q7, but SE530 doesn't - it is quite neutral IMO. The mids may seem forward however because the treble is a bit recessed and also because the bass is very fit dependent and may sound weak and or sloppy with a poor fit. I found the sound on SE530 very, very fit dependent at least for my ears - more so than any other IEM I tried. |
As of right now, I see this as not the norm. Who else agrees?
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| Originally Posted by iponderous /img/forum/go_quote.gif My apologies for the responses in bold but I don't have a knack for multi-quoting. |
Thanks, noted!
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| Originally Posted by KramitDfrog /img/forum/go_quote.gif I think it'd have to tie in with this forum - same user accounts, so you know who's opinion you're reading. Something done in conjunction with, not competing against this site would be perfect. |
We should talk about this via PM or email...
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| Originally Posted by mvw2 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I will make a secondary note. As these earphones get better and better, it becomes increasingly important to have a very clean source and clean AND adequate power to drive them. Even earphones with high sensitivity and low ohm loads still benefit from more wattage. I know some of you have complained some about poor bass, incoherence, lack of sound stage perception, harsh sound, etc. A lot of this has to do with the quality of the information you're putting into the earphone. |
I am running FLAC and decent DACs with good portable amps. But if your average consumer spends $400 on an IEM, it should sound good with a DAP, as most people don't carry around amps. I have not actually ever seen one in public (other than meets and mine). And some benefit more than others from amping, but you can't tell everyone that buys a top-tier universal to also get an amp.
