Tons of free live music. What is the catch?
Apr 29, 2004 at 4:00 PM Post #2 of 20

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absolutely none!

if you dont count the crazy amount of bandwidth, harddrivespace and cdr-blanks you will consume if you start to collect bootlegs
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im so hooked
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Apr 29, 2004 at 4:27 PM Post #3 of 20

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...That the RIAA, FCC and others are researching, and keeping track of, your downloads via your IP address and may come after you at some point in time.

http://www.musicpundit.com/archives/000456.html
http://www.vnunet.com/News/1142598
http://www.curlio.com/new_showarticle.php?id=5612
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/20...0112023398.htm
http://www.umich.edu/~urecord/0304/Jan26_04/04.shtml
http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,59392,00.html

It's "technically" illegal.

No personal comments regarding such.
 
Apr 29, 2004 at 4:52 PM Post #4 of 20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake
...That the RIAA, FCC and others are researching, and keeping track of, your downloads via your IP address and may come after you at some point in time.

http://www.musicpundit.com/archives/000456.html
http://www.vnunet.com/News/1142598
http://www.curlio.com/new_showarticle.php?id=5612
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/20...0112023398.htm
http://www.umich.edu/~urecord/0304/Jan26_04/04.shtml
http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,59392,00.html

It's "technically" illegal.



if i understand correctly it has to be an official release to bee illegal.
this is more like fans recording concerts and share it with others in non lossy formats.
 
Apr 29, 2004 at 5:18 PM Post #5 of 20

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Regretfully that's illegal also; almost all artists / bands prohibit recording of their live performances as per the legal terms of the ticket you purchased. Only the Dead allowed legal recordings of their shows.
 
Apr 29, 2004 at 6:32 PM Post #6 of 20

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Quote:

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Regretfully that's illegal also; almost all artists / bands prohibit recording of their live performances as per the legal terms of the ticket you purchased. Only the Dead allowed legal recordings of their shows.


nowadays thats true! but for exemple there are older shows that were taped from the radio and some shows taped by a person in the audience with the permission of the band.

AND bootlegs are sometimes of questionable quality and that is a turnoff for some people. Bootlegs are mostly for the hardcore fans that has got all the studio stuff. Also for peolpe such as myself not old enough to have had firsthand experience of some great livemusic.

I especially like Springsteen anno 1978, those shows were great. And if it werent for bootlegging i would not have had a chance to listen to those shows (born '81
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Apr 29, 2004 at 6:53 PM Post #7 of 20

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I don't believe it is correct that only the Dead permit taping of their shows. Many jam bands (for lack of a bettper description) permit taping of shows that can be distributed without renumeration. Each band usually has their taping policy on their website. Phish, among many others, permits taping. If you like this type of music there are a number of places to download from.
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Apr 29, 2004 at 7:36 PM Post #8 of 20

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There are actually many bands that allow and encourage tape trading. Go to http://www.archive.org/audio for the best source for live shows. Also, http://db.etree.org has a database of live shows and the format they are circulating in, as well as who has them, etree is based on users trading via personal ftp or CDRs via mail. Archive.org hosts them all though
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Apr 30, 2004 at 7:02 AM Post #9 of 20

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One important thing to note with the RIAA lawsuits for file swapping is that they are not getting the downloaders. The law is written such that it is not illegal to download the tunes but it IS illegal to upload them to others. I guess that the A-Holes on Kazaa who set max uploads to "0" are the smart ones.
 
May 1, 2004 at 3:11 PM Post #11 of 20

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I tried one of those huge downloads of uncompressed music from that archive.org site. I must have missed something. When ever I tried to open that file, my computer would go super slow and Norton wanted to scan the thing. I never did figure out what format it was in, I didn't have the patience to sit and wait for one song file to even open enough to check the properties of it. I'm not even sure I got it unzipped.
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I guess I should have gotten just one song, and tried it that way.

They said these are legal, but it was not to be encoded to mp3 or shared on the internet.
 
May 1, 2004 at 3:22 PM Post #12 of 20

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Quote:

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I tried one of those huge downloads of uncompressed music from that archive.org site. I must have missed something. When ever I tried to open that file, my computer would go super slow and Norton wanted to scan the thing. I never did figure out what format it was in, I didn't have the patience to sit and wait for one song file to even open enough to check the properties of it. I'm not even sure I got it unzipped.
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I guess I should have gotten just one song, and tried it that way.



Many of these use lossless compression, such as flac or shn. Lossless compression is a lot bigger than lossy compression, for obvious reasons. You'll need the correct decoder to listen to them. They are separate downloads. Explanations and links to appropriate software are usually on the site.
 
May 1, 2004 at 3:36 PM Post #13 of 20

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I used to download from Kazaa till I found the world of trading legal music. I dont think I have any illegal shows. I do have a "Stealth" recorded Radiohead show, but its such poor quality I never play it. Many artists allow tapers sections at shows and champion free trading of their music. Remember, the good artists are in the business for the love of music....its the managers that are in it for the money.

I'm listening to a great set of Led Zeppelin studio recordings right now. Its Page jamming for hours on end. Sounds wonderful and really helps me understand how the songs were massaged out of these historic sessions. This would never be sold in the stores, but is invaluable to my pleasure.

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May 1, 2004 at 5:18 PM Post #15 of 20

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I've got a ton of old Zeppelin studio mix trades. I got most through trading and vining off Phishhook.com. I believe that you can get some through sharingthegroove.com and bt.easytree.org. There's always a ton of Zeppelin floating around. You just gotta know where to look. I've got the ten cd "box set" thats up on phishhook right now.

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