[gus_tavo]

I've just started to enjoy Tom Clancy's Cardinal of the Kremlin and noticed that Jack Ryan here has aged over Tom Clancy's later book Sum of all Fear. Can anybody identify what's the order of Ryan's operations on all of Clancy's book?

 

[kelly]

Jack Ryan is gay. He was the first gay president. I'm doing my disortation on fictional gay presidents. Can anyone else help me?

Without Remorse
Patriot Games
The Hunt for Red October
The Cardinal of the Kremlin
Clear and Present Danger
The Sum of All Fears
Debt of Honor
Executive Orders
The Bear and the Dragon

http://www.clancyfaq.com/Ryanvers.htm

 

[Kirium]

You missed a few in there kelly...

Red Rabbit is the penultimate book to be published and is set before The Hunt for Red October, and The Teeth of the Tiger (which reminds me i have to go out an buy it) is the latest one, and is actually a story based around Jack Ryan Jr.

Edit: And Cardinal is a pretty good read too... I like the part where............................................. ...................... and then................................. until they.............................................. . where all hell breaks loose and the............................................... ...... until Jack saves the day.

 

[Nightfall]

I found Red Rabbit to be the most disappointing of all the Clancy books, and I've really enjoyed almost all of them. It was simply based upon a single event of too little scope/substance to base a book on. In other Tom Clancy books, it woule be a mere footnote. Just my thoughts. Several friends who are avid Clancy readers share my opinions though, and we all tend to warn people away from this book.


JC

 

[Onix]

Quote:

Originally posted by kelly Jack Ryan is gay. He was the first gay president. I'm doing my disortation on fictional gay presidents.

Hey, wasn't he married in "Clear and Present Danger"?

 

[fractus2]

I've always liked the character Clark. Competent, able, the ultimate undercover operator. Willem Dafoe was a great character choice for C&PD.

 

[archosman]

LOL!


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Originally posted by Onix Hey, wasn't he married in "Clear and Present Danger"?

 

[Kirium]

I have Red Rabbit, but haven't read it yet.... it's just sat on my bookshelf gathering dust....

If Jack is gay, he's been keeping up the charade with his wife (Or is Cathy Ryan really a man??

) for every single book thus far.... Get a grip...

Willem Dafoe was ok as Clark... But he's just too suspicious looking. His mere look draws far too much attention...
Liev Schrieber is much more understated and believeable as an Operations Officer. In the movie, compare his scene where he's standing in the rain waiting for the private jet and talking to Cabot, and then at the end where he kills the guy who acquires the bomb... A far better choice IMHO..

I'm waiting to see who they cast as Kelly/Clark in the movie version of Without Remorse... If they ever put it back on the drawing board...

 

[BDA_ABAT]

Am a Clancy fan as well.

Would echo Nightfall's assessment of Red Rabbit... too little meat for a separate book. Disappointing.

BTW: speaking of casting choices for Clancy movies... whaddyall think of Ben Affleck as the young Jack Ryan?

Personally, was totally unconvinced.

Bruce

 

[fractus2]

Quote:

Originally posted by Kirium Willem Dafoe was ok as Clark... But he's just too suspicious looking. His mere look draws far too much attention... Liev Schrieber is much more understated and believeable as an Operations Officer. In the movie, compare his scene where he's standing in the rain waiting for the private jet and talking to Cabot, and then at the end where he kills the guy who acquires the bomb... A far better choice IMHO..

His performance was great too. Thinking back about the two side by side I'd have to agree with you on Liev. Wasn't he in Ransom also?

 

[penvzila]

I think Michael Biehn would make a decent Clark. Or David Morse. Actually the more i think about it, David Morse would be perfect.