TinHiFi T2 EVO - Is it really an evolution of T2?

Do you think the T2 EVO can be called the Evolution of T2?

  • Yes.

  • No.

  • Idk.


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Oct 25, 2021 at 11:22 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 15

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The classic blue left and red right design makes it easy to be distinguished between left and right.
Although has been adopted a metal shell, T2 EVO is still very light, which brings the benefit of improved comfort, while the disadvantage is that the light weight makes it look cheap. On the rear panel, there's a hole designed for sound tuning of dynamic driver.
 
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Oct 26, 2021 at 4:10 AM Post #3 of 15
In terms of Built? maybe. Sound? NO, They sound BAD. I don't know about you but I listen with my ears, not my eyes.

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I haven't talked about sound yet, haha, I will make a careful evaluation of its sound later.
Btw, I was wondering why TinHiFi is so famous in the Chi-fi community.:thinking:
 
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Oct 26, 2021 at 9:20 PM Post #4 of 15
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There is also a hole beside the sound tube of T2EVO, which is designed to balance the air pressure in the ear canal and also reduce the bass. However, on T2EVO, the damping density in this hole seems to be too low, causing a problem of insufficient sub-bass, and even some single balanced armature iems(such as Etymotic ER2XR, final heaven series) get more bass than T2EVO.
 
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Oct 26, 2021 at 9:41 PM Post #6 of 15
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There is an original silver-plated cable in the package, which is soft and feels good to wear.
The upper left of the picture is the Musiland MU2 I bought a few years ago. The price of it is affordable and the sound is not bad. because the color of MU2 is the same as the T2EVO, so I took it out to go with the latter.
 
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Oct 26, 2021 at 9:41 PM Post #7 of 15
I haven't talked about sound yet, haha, I will make a careful evaluation of its sound later.
Btw, I was wondering why TinHiFi is so famous in the Chi-fi community.:thinking:

Tin HIFI came out with one of the more "neutral" sets with the Tin T2 (original) in 2017. Most budget sets are tuned harmanish or V-shaped, so the T2 was kind of unique and was held up as the go to set for a neutral budget set for many years.

Unfortunately, some of their recent releases were slammed by consumers and reviewers, eg Tin P2, Tin T5, Tin T2 Evo also. In fact, Tin HIFI had to release a "pro" version of the T5 and P2 just a few weeks after releases of the originals, to retune the tuning. Tin also released the P1, one of the cheaper pure planars which has a cult following, but I found it a pain to drive and it lacked bass. Tin also had the T2 Plus which was a good U shaped set with excellent tonality and timbre, but bottlenecked at technical performance.

As for the T2 Evo, yes. It is not that great IMHO. Thin note weight, shouty with timbral accuracy a bit off for vocals. For the same price with a similar tuning, I would recommend the HZSound Heart Mirror over it. The T2 Evo isn't an evolution as such, I would also recommend the T2 Plus over it.

The most disappointing thing is that in the T2 Evo, the MMCX issues have not been fixed. My set had such a tight MMCX that I needed tools to remove it. My T2 Plus had a loose MMCX out of the box, it was spinning like a windvane. There are so many MMCX complaints on forums for the T2 series and T4 series.

More of a case of one step forward and two steps back with the T2 Evo.

Tin is releasing a P1 Plus upgrade of the cult classic P1 planar, so let's see how that goes.
 
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Oct 26, 2021 at 9:55 PM Post #8 of 15
Tin HIFI came out with one of the more "neutral" sets with the Tin T2 (original) in 2017. Most budget sets are tuned harmanish or V-shaped, so the T2 was kind of unique and was held up as the go to set for a neutral budget set for many years.

Unfortunately, some of their recent releases were slammed by consumers and reviewers, eg Tin P2, Tin T5, Tin T2 Evo also. In fact, Tin HIFI had to release a "pro" version of the T5 and P2 just a few weeks after releases of the originals, to retune the tuning. Tin also released the P1, one of the cheaper pure planars which has a cult following, but I found it a pain to drive and it lacked bass. Tin also had the T2 Plus which was a good U shaped set with excellent tonality and timbre, but bottlenecked at technical performance.

As for the T2 Evo, yes. It is not that great IMHO. Thin note weight, shouty with timbral accuracy a bit off for vocals. For the same price with a similar tuning, I would recommend the HZSound Heart Mirror over it. The T2 Evo isn't an evolution as such, I would also recommend the T2 Plus over it.

The most disappointing thing is that in the T2 Evo, the MMCX issues have not been fixed. My set had such a tight MMCX that I needed tools to remove it. My T2 Plus had a loose MMCX out of the box, it was spinning like a windvane. There are so many MMCX complaints on forums for the T2 series and T4 series.

More of a case of one step forward and two steps back with the T2 Evo.

Tin is releasing a P1 Plus upgrade of the cult classic P1 planar, so let's see how that goes.
Thanks for your explanation! Indeed, I bought T2EVO for trial listening after hearing about the reputation of T2. I thought T2EVO would sound better than T2 because it is the EVO version of T2, but now it seems I was wrong. In addition, I couldn't remove the MMCX cable with my bare hands either. I used FiiO’s MMCX assist tool to help me change the cable. I think I will try HZsound Mirror, thank you for your suggestion!
 
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Oct 26, 2021 at 10:19 PM Post #9 of 15
Thanks for your explanation! Indeed, I bought T2EVO for trial listening after hearing about the reputation of T2. I thought T2EVO would sound better than T2 because it is the EVO version of T2, but now it seems I was wrong. In addition, I couldn't remove the MMCX cable with my bare hands either. I used FiiO’s MMCX assist tool to help me change the cable. I think I will try HZsound Mirror, thank you for your suggestion!

The HZSound Heart Mirror needs an amp though. It sounds meh from lower powered sources, but really scales beautifully when amped.

The Tin T2 Plus (predecessor of the Tin T2 Evo) is quite a good set too, more bass and good tonality, though it lacks a bit in resolution.
 
Oct 26, 2021 at 11:05 PM Post #10 of 15
The HZSound Heart Mirror needs an amp though. It sounds meh from lower powered sources, but really scales beautifully when amped.

The Tin T2 Plus (predecessor of the Tin T2 Evo) is quite a good set too, more bass and good tonality, though it lacks a bit in resolution.
I dunno if my BTR5's balanced output could drive Mirror well. Btw, could you please recommend me a balanced(neutral and flat) set?
 
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Oct 26, 2021 at 11:31 PM Post #11 of 15
I dunno if my BTR5's balanced output could drive Mirror well. Btw, could you please recommend me a balanced(neutral and flat) set?

BTR5 should have no problem via balanced.

- Heart Mirror is a neutralish bright set.
- TForce Yuan Li is a balanced U shaped set.
- TRI Starsea is a multi driver set with very good technicalities. Has switches to give 4 tuning options, V shaped to U shaped to neutralish.

Most budget sets are unfortunately V shaped or harman tuned, so these are the better ones I've tried so far that are more balanced/neutral.
 
Oct 26, 2021 at 11:55 PM Post #12 of 15
BTR5 should have no problem via balanced.

- Heart Mirror is a neutralish bright set.
- TForce Yuan Li is a balanced U shaped set.
- TRI Starsea is a multi driver set with very good technicalities. Has switches to give 4 tuning options, V shaped to U shaped to neutralish.

Most budget sets are unfortunately V shaped or harman tuned, so these are the better ones I've tried so far that are more balanced/neutral.
Got it, thanx!:beerchug:
 
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Oct 27, 2021 at 2:37 AM Post #13 of 15
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Here comes the impedance measurement of T2EVO. The impedance of T2EVO is very flat. The advantage of this is that the power output from the DAP/AMP to the headset will be more balanced, and it will not fluctuate too much with frequency changes. So when you use a different DAP/AMP to drive T2EVO, the sound style of T2EVO will not change significantly, at least there will be no problem of unpleasant sound due to insufficient output power.
 
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Oct 27, 2021 at 3:11 AM Post #14 of 15
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Finally, I‘m talking about its sound.
T2EVO seems to have a V-shaped sound without much bass. The mids and bass are very flat, but starting from 800Hz, there is a peak as high as 14db, with the top at about 5kHz. Such a graph is very strange to me, and so is its sound.
When using it to listen to pop music, I seem to be overwhelmed by some instruments‘ sound and sibilance sound of vocal. Not to mention rock music, less bass but more treble will make rock music harsh. If you want a balanced sound or you are a basshead, this set is simply not suitable.
 
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Oct 27, 2021 at 3:41 AM Post #15 of 15
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But, is there any way to optimize the sound of T2EVO?
The answer is YES.
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In the graph above, there is a black curve with more bass, which I measured by pasting a gummed tape on the hole next to the sound tube. So I can paste different densities of damping(like pic on the left) on this hole to increase the bass, in order to achieve the sound effect that suits me. Well, this may cause less distortion than adjusting the EQ.
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If you don't want more bass, but a flatter sound, it's recommended to put a damper in the sound tube or the tube of ear tips(that's what sony always do). This kind of damper also has different densities, the higher density, the fewer high frequencies. Luckily, the stock T2EVO has enough treble, so high-density damper can be used on it.
Also, the blue eartips from TinHiFi can also alleviate the problem of treble, but the effect is not as good as putting a damper in the tube.
 
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