Tin Hifi P1 impressions
post-15150270
Post #736 of 1,134

capnjack

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Sep 8, 2013
Messages
1,139
Reaction score
865
Location
England
Joined
Sep 8, 2013
Location
England
Posts
1,139
Likes
865
Well, this was a surprise, my old battery powered AskewLabs Cmoy bb amp and Shanling M1 play nice with the P1. Only got volume at 45% :)

2507F23D-9087-4EBB-9977-73DCDA7B7BE3.jpeg
 
     Share This Post       
post-15150349
Post #737 of 1,134

trivium911

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Dec 13, 2015
Messages
493
Reaction score
98
Location
Canada
Joined
Dec 13, 2015
Location
Canada
Posts
493
Likes
98
I own both, but to me it is an apples and oranges comparison. Over ear open back vs in ear doesn’t directly compare.

I will say with the right amp and good eq they both sound better than without
do they complement each other? What about bass though?

Typically i run my 400I's out of my little dot i+ or the balanced connection from my DX120 which is 400 mW @ 32 ohms. I feel the DX120 is a good amount of power for the 400i's and nothing is lacking compared to the little dot. I just prefer the warmer tube sound from the LD i+... Out of a cell phone they sound like crap of course.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15150370
Post #738 of 1,134

captblaze

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Feb 11, 2016
Messages
1,280
Reaction score
782
Location
Blazin it up in the land of Lincoln
Joined
Feb 11, 2016
Location
Blazin it up in the land of Lincoln
Posts
1,280
Likes
782
do they complement each other? What about bass though?

Typically i run my 400I's out of my little dot i+ or the balanced connection from my DX120 which is 400 mW @ 32 ohms. I feel the DX120 is a good amount of power for the 400i's and nothing is lacking compared to the little dot. I just prefer the warmer tube sound from the LD i+... Out of a cell phone they sound like crap of course.
I currently run both out of a PowerDAC v2 (with tweaked to my hearing eq) and I enjoy both equally, although it is recording and music style dependent as to which I am listening to in the moment
 
     Share This Post       
post-15150457
Post #739 of 1,134

Paolino64

New Head-Fier
Joined
Jul 20, 2015
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
Joined
Jul 20, 2015
Posts
1
Likes
0
Has anyone here used both the Radone ES100 AND the iFi xCan to drive the P1s?
If so, do they benefit from the increased power available form the iFi?

I know that in theory they should but please only answer if you've actually tried both devices to drive them and can compare.
I'm thinking of selling my desktop amp to buy an xCan
Thanks
I have similar question...actually I use the RWAK100 ( ak100 modified by winnie ) to reach less than one ohm of output impedance , using with Westone 4 .
Is a very very good sound...
The RWAK100 can drive properly the P1 ?

Paolo
 
     Share This Post       
post-15151304
Post #740 of 1,134

Fatdoi

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 6, 2016
Messages
226
Reaction score
136
Location
Australia
Joined
Jan 6, 2016
Location
Australia
Posts
226
Likes
136
do they complement each other? What about bass though?

Typically i run my 400I's out of my little dot i+ or the balanced connection from my DX120 which is 400 mW @ 32 ohms. I feel the DX120 is a good amount of power for the 400i's and nothing is lacking compared to the little dot. I just prefer the warmer tube sound from the LD i+... Out of a cell phone they sound like crap of course.
Imo treat and power the P1 just like full sized hp... My desktop amp has slight hiss for sensitive iem but powering P1, dead silent...
 
Last edited:
     Share This Post       
  • Like
Reactions: rayliam80
post-15151422
Post #741 of 1,134

dogears

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Jan 23, 2003
Messages
1,825
Reaction score
54
Location
Philippines
Joined
Jan 23, 2003
Location
Philippines
Posts
1,825
Likes
54
the nozzle design sucks. metal is so slippery and this alone limits the tips that you will be able to use with it :p
PLUS people with smaller ear canals will have tougher chance on finding the right tips due to the diameter of the nozzle - it's FAT!
I tried most of my extra tips and found only 2 or 3 pairs that would nicely fit the nozzle and my ears.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15153258
Post #742 of 1,134

Charlie Norwood

Previously known as Infinity Knives
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
310
Reaction score
144
Location
NYC
Joined
May 9, 2012
Location
NYC
Posts
310
Likes
144
Website
open.spotify.com
the nozzle design sucks. metal is so slippery and this alone limits the tips that you will be able to use with it :p
PLUS people with smaller ear canals will have tougher chance on finding the right tips due to the diameter of the nozzle - it's FAT!
I tried most of my extra tips and found only 2 or 3 pairs that would nicely fit the nozzle and my ears.
Yeah you need tips with a slightly wider bore, but any tip that can get around the nozzle you can push it past the ridge for a much more secure fit. I also think they sound better the closer to your eardrum, bass is definitely improved. Not sure why they felt the best fit/sound was to keep the nozzle as far from your eardrum as possible.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15153262
Post #743 of 1,134

Charlie Norwood

Previously known as Infinity Knives
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
310
Reaction score
144
Location
NYC
Joined
May 9, 2012
Location
NYC
Posts
310
Likes
144
Website
open.spotify.com
     Share This Post       
post-15153268
Post #744 of 1,134

captblaze

1000+ Head-Fier
Joined
Feb 11, 2016
Messages
1,280
Reaction score
782
Location
Blazin it up in the land of Lincoln
Joined
Feb 11, 2016
Location
Blazin it up in the land of Lincoln
Posts
1,280
Likes
782
     Share This Post       
post-15153819
Post #745 of 1,134

dogears

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Jan 23, 2003
Messages
1,825
Reaction score
54
Location
Philippines
Joined
Jan 23, 2003
Location
Philippines
Posts
1,825
Likes
54
the timbre! <3 <3 <3

@CharlieNorwood, the ridge is not secured if the tip bore has no 'anchor' whatsoever... it's so smooth and slippery! :p Will check blues today.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15153832
Post #746 of 1,134

dogears

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Jan 23, 2003
Messages
1,825
Reaction score
54
Location
Philippines
Joined
Jan 23, 2003
Location
Philippines
Posts
1,825
Likes
54
197C475A-04A7-4412-A99B-D1B8CDF2A3C9.jpeg senfer cable. improved soundstage. more on the brighter side. lost of bass.
 
Last edited:
     Share This Post       
post-15153842
Post #747 of 1,134

atomd

Head-Fier
Joined
Dec 14, 2004
Messages
61
Reaction score
38
Joined
Dec 14, 2004
Posts
61
Likes
38
P1s showed up today. I haven't had much listening time with them yet but a couple of things I noticed. These seem to be extremely sensitive to fit. All iems are sensitive to fit of course but these it seems the tiniest little change in positioning (not enough to cause a poor seal) and wow the sound changes wildly. Maybe because of the short stem and wide nozzle? I don't know.

The stock tips make it hard for me to get a good seal. I've settled on the larger foam ones which normally I don't care for. I'll order some new ones to try. Another thing is the cable with 3 different braids in it is odd. I get that it saves money but that lower braid is pretty darn loose. The little leather case is a nice addition. The bodies of these are very small. They look bigger in pictures.

There's a LOT to like about the sound for $150. What's funny is that after listening to them for a little while I purposely put on a couple of tracks that have some uncomfortable harsh highs that border sibilant on some other headphones and iems that I own. I would have bet anything that these would be harsh as any if not worse...but....surprise surprise...they came through with flying colors. They did get close to that point (most things will) but were never annoying. The sub bass is a bit lacking. I plugged them into a topping nx4 and turned bass boost on just to see. They are capable of putting out a bit of bass but definitely not a basshead iem by any measure. They do require some power. I had the nx4 on high gain and the volume at 11:00 to get some high volume and the nx4 is a little powerhouse of an amp.

So far so good. Really liking them overall at this point. Hopefully I'll like them even more with different tips. I will try a few other amps over the next few days too. I'm really impressed that these are this good at this price point. Crazy.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15153859
Post #748 of 1,134

dogears

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Jan 23, 2003
Messages
1,825
Reaction score
54
Location
Philippines
Joined
Jan 23, 2003
Location
Philippines
Posts
1,825
Likes
54
These seem to be extremely sensitive to fit. <...> Maybe because of the short stem and wide nozzle? I don't know.
This exactly. I ended up with JVC spiral dot tips. They sort of 'cling' on the skin. Gives nice comfy fit.
 
     Share This Post       
post-15153997
Post #749 of 1,134

SolaVirtus

Head-Fier
Joined
Aug 24, 2017
Messages
56
Reaction score
28
Location
Michigan, USA
Joined
Aug 24, 2017
Location
Michigan, USA
Posts
56
Likes
28
I've had the P1 for a couple days now. It's early, but I'm super impressed with the clarity, imaging and detail. I'm still figuring out tips, but I've tried a couple that were pretty good, so I'm hopeful.

I can confirm that a ES100 will drive the P1. I'm using it balanced with 2x voltage and it's as loud as anyone should need well before max. I was worried because on my desk rig at work, I had a Magni 3 on high gain between 9 and noon.
 
     Share This Post       
  • Like
Reactions: rayliam80
post-15154508
Post #750 of 1,134

cenix

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jan 9, 2014
Messages
176
Reaction score
37
Joined
Jan 9, 2014
Posts
176
Likes
37
Just received the P1. I noticed some clicking sounds on the right earpiece (also on the left one, but far less frequent) when listening to certain songs.... Should I be worried?

False alarm, turned out to be the songs.

Edit: Using LG V30 + Fiio E11 for now, as my Topping DX3 has yet to arrive. The E11 drives it just fine, didn't even need to go to high gain.

Also, small detail but... weren't the insides of the box grey as opposed to black? The box I have was about to fall apart when it arrived. Very badly put together.

WbwQPvHw.jpeg
 
Last edited:
     Share This Post       

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 1, Guests: 2)

Top