Thread crapping?

[funniecow]

The other day I was reading the FS forums, and apparently a member came into a seller's, like new, thread and showed that his price was above asking price, of a brand new version of the same item.

And it was later quoted for "thread crapping".

So my questions are:
-What's thread thread crapping?
-Does saving people from spending more money account as "crapping"?
-Isn't it seen as saving noobs from the onslaught of being over priced?
-Do we just turn away, when we see people clearly overpricing items?


I think there was a thread of called "FS pratices that annoy me", and one was that people wouldn't disclose the slaes price, so noobs wouldn't know what is a good asking price, right?

Edit: I guess what I'm trying to say is, is anything that is detrimental to the OP considered thread crapping? Wouldn't the OP be considered as "forum crapping"? I mean sure showing up in a thread and flaming the OP is obvious "thread crapping" but to show that the OP has a bad price considered thread crapping? Ok, sure they could have used a PM first, but what if the OP just ignores it? It's not like you are going to PM everyone else on head-fi warning them.

 

[milkpowder]

I too get annoyed when headphones are flogged for unrealistically high prices and it also pains me to think that some poor chap is going to pay that price simply because they didn't know better. However, I think sellers have a right to sell at any price they wish to and hence it is the buyers' responsibility to research the prices. If the buyer is willing to pay a premium, then so be it. We're hardly talking about life-changing sums of money anyway. It's rather rare for a headphone's buy/sell price history to be completely non-existent. You can always ask around (eg PM experienced members) and also search on Google for the 'new price' if the headphones are still in production.

 

[progo]

I think it's extremely bad manners to show up to other's sale threads to tell facts about the possible lower prices. This is business and if buyer doesn't keep their eyes open they pay some extra. Ignorance is costy. And seller likes it too. Why would you spoil sellers' fun? Buyers won't necessarily even notice they paid too much.

 

[braillediver]

It's extremely rude to interfere with a buyer and a seller anywhere. Go to a car dealer and in the middle of a transaction step up and tell the buyer they can get a better deal some where else. Is the internet really any different?

If you wanted to start a thread in the headphone section touting a good price that’s a good option but not interfering with a private transaction.


“This is business and if buyer doesn't keep their eyes open they pay some extra. Ignorance is costly.”

A person can ask any price they want. A buyer can pay any price they want. It’s not any of your business unless you’re actually involved in the transaction.


Obvious fact is some people have paid full retail for their headphones and the prices they are asking for used are reasonable.


Mitch

 

[-=Germania=-]

Yes.

It is this:

I agree with those practices. If you would like to inform the seller, just send a PM. No reason to tread on them.

 

[analogbox]

Quote:

Originally Posted by braillediver /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's extremely rude to interfere with a buyer and a seller anywhere. Go to a car dealer and in the middle of a transaction step up and tell the buyer they can get a better deal some where else. Is the internet really any different? Mitch

Um... No? It's more like you walking into a car dealer looking to buy a car and then the car dealer asks you a ridiculously high price for the car you want so you say "That's too expensive!" and walking away. You know you do that.

 

[braillediver]

Um... No? You've conveniently left out the 3rd party not involved in the transaction questioning the price.


Mitch

 

[analogbox]

Quote:

Originally Posted by braillediver /img/forum/go_quote.gif Um... No? You've conveniently left out the 3rd party not involved in the transaction questioning the price. Mitch

Maybe they happen to be at the same place at the same time and overheard the conversation?

Seriously though, if the deal's already going on and you leave a destructive comment then it's unquestionably rude but if there's no deals going on and you are the potential buyer then there is no 3rd party to consider.

 

[funniecow]

That's what I mean, for example I saw a kid buying a Nintendo DS and we was getting scammed so that he had to pay 10$ above asking price for a BRAND NEW DS. So I chimed in and told the kid that he was getting taken advantage of. The seller didn't do anything to me, I'm not captain macho or anything, it's just that I hate seeing people get ripped off.

But I think that that's the natural fear of people who don't want to use the FS forums.

-Fear of buying damaged goods
-Fear of getting over priced used items

I've tried doing a search to look for AKG 701's, and the price range moved drastically. So I opted to pm/aiming two people to ask for a decent price, also including what conditions they are in. Guess what, they couldn't really tell because the price changes too much and not everyone discloses the price they they do get sold for. So I came up with a price of a moderate $200.

TBH I rarely see sellers disclose how much an item was sold for, or sometimes they even remove the asking price. It's hard to compare prices or even find out what is a decent price =(.

 

[Uncle Erik]

That's threadcrapping. If you bother to look at the rules, the For Sale Forums are for buying and selling, period. No comments, no bumping for others, and so on.

If you are interested in an overpriced item, PM the seller and offer an appropriate price. That's all you have to do. Don't make it public.

 

[krmathis]

That sure is thread crapping.
Why you ask? Because the sticky thread say This Is Not A Discussion Forum
Quote:

Please stop with the in-thread discussions in the Gear For Sale / Trade forum. Any discussions within sale/trade threads should be related directly to the transaction, and nothing more or less. If you're not interested in buying or trading the item(s) in the thread, then don't post. If you're wondering whether or not you should post a comment or opinion in a sale/trade thread, you probably should not. If you want to know why a person is selling something, PM (private message) or e-mail them. If you think a sale is crooked or smells funny, report it. Thanks. -- Jude --

 

[analogbox]

Of course, a rule is rule. You gotta follow the rules. But, if you reasonably price an item, none of these would happen and noobies won't end up spending more than what they really should.

 

[blessingx]

Quote:

Originally Posted by progo /img/forum/go_quote.gif I think it's extremely bad manners to show up to other's sale threads to tell facts about the possible lower prices. This is business and if buyer doesn't keep their eyes open they pay some extra. Ignorance is costy. And seller likes it too. Why would you spoil sellers' fun? Buyers won't necessarily even notice they paid too much.

I think if we're discussing ethics and "extremely bad manners" ripping people off is far worse than butting into a business transaction (which isn't usually unethical, though you may find it immoral). I don't know what you're implying by "this is business" and why the sellers "fun" supersedes the buyers, but I'd say the two reasons not to interfere is it's the rules, and often the financial conditions (previous paid price or import/tax issues, etc.) aren't always known.

 

[funniecow]

Remember in my first post how I stated a guy, showed that you can get the phones for a cheaper price NEW? Apparently the seller pulled it and is only hawking the other item now.

Blessingx gets what i'm tyring to say, it's bad manners, but it's more ethical. Well it is in my opinion.

 

[progo]

One's ethics should be left intact. If a seller wants to 'scum' and ask overprice then he should be allowed to do so. No buyer is forced to buy anything. Like a buyer can set a WTB of any sort (they can ask too low price), should sellers be allowed to do similarly and ask too high price.