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Thoughts on a bunch of DACs (and why delta-sigma kinda sucks, just to get you to think about stuff)

Discussion in 'Dedicated Source Components' started by purrin, Dec 5, 2013.
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  1. haywood
    The cool thing is your gungnir is upgradable and if rumors are right that should be really relevant in the not-so-distant future.
  2. Thenewguy007
    Any chance you guys can recommend a portable DAC (or a AMP/DAC) for objectively good soundstage?
    I just noticed that I lug around my heavy desktop amp from room to room for whatever device I need.

    With another large & heavy DAC, it would be very impractical & a smaller portable combo would be nice.
  3. nicolo
    The Geek Out V2 or Geek Out V2+ (inbuilt battery)
  4. Dalgas
    Sounds very interesting - have you heard what kind of upgrade it should be? The fact that gungnir is upgradable was one reason why I chose it. That and the ad-ons like Wyrd and Loki. All in all Schiit are highly flexible gear. 
  5. DecentLevi
    Just want to sort out a couple things on Schiit products recently mentioned:
    The Wyrd is a USB signal enhancer that is compatible to possibly improve any DAC, and while it makes a noticeable improvement on the Modi 1 (speaking from direct experience), it's not necessary to be used with the Modi 2 which already has an improved USB section implemented. Loki is a separate DAC rather than and add-on, and is mainly for DSD (SACD type) codecs.
  6. Hansotek
    Sorry to have to correct you here, but most of what you just said is flat-out wrong. Wyrd can absolutely have an effect on Modi 2 or any of the other higher-end DACs. Also, what you said about Loki is totally off. It IS an add-on component. You can use Loki to add DSD to any DAC. It can be used as a standalone DAC in a pinch, but you'll need to be using a player that can convert PCM to DSD to use Loki without a separate DAC.
  7. Solude
    Nothing he said was wrong.  Get yourself a dictionary and you'll see why.
  8. Hansotek
    To say "Loki is a separate DAC, not an add-on" is tremendously misleading, at best. If you don't believe me, go read the product page. Seriously.

    Reading it again, I may have misinterpreted the other part on Modi 2 and Wyrd a little bit, and if so, that's on me, and I'm sorry. I took it to mean that USB 2.0 and Wyrd were solving the same problems, which they are not. Thus, I tried to stop the factual error before it led somebody to make a misinformed buying decision. I realize now that's probably not what he meant by that statement.
  9. Solude
    Loki is a DSD only DAC that has an RCA passthrough.  It is as much an add-on as a PCM only DAC would be.  Which is to say... not.  There are actually a lot of DSD only DACs now that it is the new shiny.  The Loki just happens to be very inexpensive in comparison from a company that couldn't care less about DSD.
  10. Hansotek
    Ugh. Whatever. This is the problem with people making vague statements, they're open to too much interpretation/misinterpretation. Let's mercy kill this godawful unproductive debate. It's over.
    Argo Duck likes this.
  11. Ableza
    Loki is a shape-shifter and a trickster.  Trust him at your peril.
  12. wink
    The Loki is NOT to be used without rune stones to ward off any skullduggery.
  13. auvgeek
    I'd buy this and a Gustard U12 DDC. http://www.head-fi.org/t/774020/parasound-d-ac-1100-hd-vintage-r2r-dac-upgraded-pcm63-k-grade-24-48khz
    Just my $0.02.
    EDIT Or this: http://www.head-fi.org/t/774397/fs-sonic-frontiers-anthem-transdac-jk-ci-nas-converter
    But I haven't heard any; just done enough research that I think they'd be solid options in that price range. I'm loving my Theta Basic IIIa with U12. (But still lusting after a Tanly DDC.)
  14. lukeap69
  15. Jozurr
    What would be the cheapest R2R dac to buy excluding the vintage DACs? (Which has USB input)
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