This Schiit is Bananas! $99 Schiit Magni Amp and $99 Modi DAC
Jan 31, 2013 at 9:22 PM Post #947 of 1,370
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It's not the bit depth. I believe the Modi is failing. When I first plug it in and start playing something, it sounds ok for a few seconds, and then it quickly degrades. I've recorded an example for you:
 
https://soundcloud.com/phalangees/broken-modi
 
Please let me know what you think.

 
No it sounds fine, that's just dubstep.
 
 
 
 
hehehe jk
 
Jan 31, 2013 at 9:24 PM Post #948 of 1,370
It's not the bit depth. I believe the Modi is failing. When I first plug it in and start playing something, it sounds ok for a few seconds, and then it quickly degrades. I've recorded an example for you:

https://soundcloud.com/phalangees/broken-modi

Please let me know what you think.


Sounds good to me--is there a problem?

Seriously, have you tried it with another computer? If you still have the same problem on another machine, it's probably a bad board.
 
Feb 1, 2013 at 1:13 AM Post #950 of 1,370
Modi problems, good news, workaround without reboot.
 
Report:  The Modi sounds great for a certain period of time.
I have tested the device from USB powered hubs, directly to 
two different Macbooks and I definitely have an ISSUE.
 
Background:
I am far from a MacOSX expert but I am intimately familiar with
the workings of the CoreAudio Stack.  
 
I worked the Modi through all my Aggregate Devices, Multi-Output Devices 
and through several different routing configurations with Jack Audio, Audio Hijack
Soundflower and MAX/MSP.
 
The CoreAudio/Audio Midi Setup in OSX, lets you see where clock is derived from
 

 
In Aggregate and Multi Devices you can select a specific device.  I present this
as there are many test cases and use cases that are absolutely regular and do
work with other USB audio devices.  Definitely there can be more debugging
but if the MODI is a "USB audio class device" it should work. 
 
Of note you can also do re-sampling and drift correction within an Aggregate or
Multi-Device Output, you can also have any number of these with any combination
of different audio devices even firewire.
 
Problem:
At any given moment in time it could and I have experienced a few failure scenarios.
 
1. Right channel is lost, replaced by background digital clipping
2. Left channel is lost, replaced by white noise
3. All audio stops, no sound, empty
4. A digital clipping starts at low volume then ramps slowly to MAX output (SCARY)
 
By far the weirdest is losing one channel. since the other channel is working. 
 
I will highlight the more advanced use case just because it is also a great testing platform.
The simplest setup and anyone with a Macbook and a DAC and two amps (lol) can do this.
With the aforementioned Multi-Output device,  you will create a new device and add the
Mac's  Built-in Output and MODI together into a device.
 
Multi-Device Output (24bit 48khz) Clock Source (Built-In or Schiit doesn't matter)
->Built-In Output
->Speaker-Schiit USB Audio Device
 
Right click on Multi-Output and select "Use this device for sound output" 
Fire up Itunes play a song, and it comes out both devices at the same time, simple.
 
Wait then at sometime even up to a day later only the MODI drops out
 
Another from my working setups.  
For example, Modi 1 + USB audio (2/4out) + Built-in Output (24bit-48hz)
 
 
The Modi will stay accurate in reference to sample rate for some period of time, it 
does seem arbitrary after about 30 minutes. Then a failure occurs.  I like this use case
as well because another USB audio device with a different chipset is involved. Other
devices still output correctly. Modi is in one of failure states.
 
Diagnosis:
I say clock or USB chipset implementation of the MODI seems to be the culprit
because the only way to fix this is to change the sample rate in Audio Midi Settings
You must change the MODI to a DIFFERENT sample rate then change it back again.
Once it flips back and sometimes immediately on change to new sample rate the
MODI will again function. 
 
Oddity:
I have also seen a very bizarre event whereby the modi has stopped working and when
I looked at it in the Audio-Midi Settings it had changed its sample rate to 88200.  Very strange.
 
Regards,
l0rdr0ck
 
Feb 1, 2013 at 2:03 PM Post #952 of 1,370
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What does Schiit say about your problem?

I am trying to gather as much data as I can so that we can fix the issue. I am totally committed to providing something not just venting.
Once I have a complete roundup and test against Linux and Windows systems I expect to reach out.
 
Feb 1, 2013 at 2:25 PM Post #953 of 1,370
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I am trying to gather as much data as I can so that we can fix the issue. I am totally committed to providing something not just venting.
Once I have a complete roundup and test against Linux and Windows systems I expect to reach out.

 
Thanks for the comprehensive info, but consider that yours may simply be mis-programmed or have some other hardware fault. There are about a thousand in the field right now, 99.7% playing happily with Windows and Mac. We can always swap it out for you.
 
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Feb 2, 2013 at 2:13 AM Post #954 of 1,370
My Magni has started making this intermittent scratching noise. It almost sounds like interference. It does it on it's own without input, so it's gotta be from the Magni. I recently picked up a new monitor, but I doubt that's causing it... my older FiiO E9 isn't doing anything out of the ordinary. I have an email in to Schiit already, but do any of you guys have any ideas of anything I can try in the interim?
 
Feb 2, 2013 at 2:39 AM Post #955 of 1,370
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Thanks for the comprehensive info, but consider that yours may simply be mis-programmed or have some other hardware fault. There are about a thousand in the field right now, 99.7% playing happily with Windows and Mac. We can always swap it out for you.

Thanks so much Jason!!
 
I wanted to try and test and make sure I didn't waste your time. 
Don't for a moment think I am not a happy customer, I own a Lyr too.
my unit is B080137 maybe number 137?  
 
By the way it does sound awesome!
 
Feb 2, 2013 at 12:28 PM Post #957 of 1,370
How can you solve/reduce the noise( suppose the interference) from the Magni? It's very noticeable when not playing any music.


I literally never got any noise from the Magni itself, even at full volume (no sound playing obviously).

The only noise I ever got was from my source, the Magni itself was always dead quiet.
 
Feb 3, 2013 at 5:24 PM Post #960 of 1,370
Question about the Magni. I've been using it with an AKG K550 with no noise whatsoever. I believe it's rated at 50ohms. But when I switch to my Sony 7506, which I believe has higher ohms specs, there's a ton of noise at low level volume as well as popping sounds at higher volumes. The same happens when I plug in my Sennheiser HD558... Can anyone help explaining this? Is there something wrong with my Magni?

I tend to switch headphones quite a bit so not sure if its an amp problem.
 

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