Quote: Originally Posted by fewtch Basically it lost the 3D aspect of soundstage imaging, to my ears. Everything sounded on the same plane, instruments on back of the stage sounded the same distance from me as instruments on the front. Also the sound wasn't as airy, although bass was definitely more punchy and solid. I had the exact same experience with Oehlbach. Didn't like it at all. Intermittency problems should be gone, but the cable itself on the hd580 is pretty prone to break. I've destroyed about one per year.