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Nov 24, 2021 at 10:06 PM Post #3,691 of 13,596
So the ISN H50 is on sale folks. No brainer for that price. Give those a try. It has a upper treble lift but it is tasteful and does not poke your ears out but that upper treble is important especially for Jazz. It is a compete different sound from the H40 tuning. More technical vs the H40. Similar wide stage as them too but more grown up sound. You have almost enough money left over to get a new Serial as well. Match the H50 to a nicer cable and it will be a nice experience for you.
 
Nov 24, 2021 at 10:54 PM Post #3,692 of 13,596
So I am checking out two good match ups for the Serial. It has plenty of upper mid emphasis that makes them have a nice smooth clarity. It is most definitely an energetic sound signature. A bit of a departure from the more analoguish tunings of Penon BA offerings. The Serial will surprise a lot of folks with how good the detail aspect of these earphones are in all 3 parts of the sound.
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With the ISN CU4.
Absolutely fantastic pairing with the serial. Serial has added depth and it does give a slight warmer take on the stock sound using the CS819. A nicely resolving pure copper adds fullness and gives host sound more body. This CU4 in particular seems to help with depth and body of the earphones. Serial sounds deeper fuller more musical with copper. Absolute supreb natural clean tonal character. Deep rumbly bass. Sounds great with this cable.
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The OS849 shown here is another superb match up. But I like how the CU4 synergizes with Serial on my Fiio M15 which is more neutral tuned dap. If you're using a warmer source the OS849 will be the way to go. Folks that want a serial with a wider stage. Adds a moderate amount of fullness but gives just a wide a stage as the Penon Mix cables. it is a toss up between these two cables will depend on what source your running it with. The OS849 is a clear upgrade for the stock tuning. CU4 adds a touch of elegant warmth. Both bring out a higher level of sonics on the Serial. OS849 retains all the treble emphasis and a deep hitting bass with a fuller body, wider stage than the CU4. But for folks that want to get the most musical smoothest sounding serial that would be achieved with copper. Either way you cant go wrong.

Folks that dove into the Serial train. I think your gonna like.
 
Nov 24, 2021 at 11:35 PM Post #3,693 of 13,596
So the ISN H50 is on sale folks. No brainer for that price. Give those a try. It has a upper treble lift but it is tasteful and does not poke your ears out but that upper treble is important especially for Jazz. It is a compete different sound from the H40 tuning. More technical vs the H40. Similar wide stage as them too but more grown up sound. You have almost enough money left over to get a new Serial as well. Match the H50 to a nicer cable and it will be a nice experience for you.
Thanks for your rec @Dsnuts ! Just curious, will pure copper cable dampen the treble more than gold platted cable? what type of cable material will be suitable to soften the treble while maintaining good bass and overall clarity?
 
Nov 24, 2021 at 11:52 PM Post #3,694 of 13,596
Gold plated coppers there both of the ones I showed on the review matches extremely well with the H50. I like what a bit of gold plating does for the sound tuning on the H50 but it also has a bit of silver plating in there too. If you want to dabble with cables The H50 is an excellent host for cable match ups. You can get the phones first and try your different 2 pin cables and it will give you a clue in the type of cable pairing you want to use with it. You might want a bit more warmth to the tonality or something that enhances detail and stage. The H50 and serail both match up well with cable pairings.

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This cable is on sale for $64!! That is a steal for these. https://penonaudio.com/isn-audio-gs4.html?page={page}

Copper will smooth out the treble and its tonal character. More nicer copper cables do a great job and detail retrieval. Not exactly pure silver level but it will depend on how smooth you want your H50 to sound. If you have some copper cables on hand you can try them. H50s stock cable is OK. it is the newer version of the ISN S8 cable. Good stock SPC cable but the cables I show on the photo will elevate the H50. More impactful bass and thickens the sound a touch too. The Penon GS849 even more so which also happens to be on sale for $134. But they are a bit on the bulky as it is almost double the material that is on the ISN GS4 pictured. If you don't like bulkier cables try the ISN GS4. That cable is like a cheap man's Solar. Will bring about 80% of the sound performance of the ISN flagship cables the Solar. It will clearly be an upgrade from the stock ISN S8 cables.
 
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Nov 25, 2021 at 12:54 AM Post #3,696 of 13,596
I have the 2 pin version of the Mix. I am using an mmcx adapter but. They sound great with the H50 though for you I would get one of them GS4 or even the Penon GS849
It cost a bit more but the Penon GS849 is awesome sounding on the H50. I would go with that instead. The silver on the Mix brings out that treble detail. I like what the gold plated cables do for the H50 sound more so than the Mix. Its copper properties are evident and throws out a bigger wider stage. Makes H50 sound more dynamic and detailed at the same time.

You might not like what pure silver does for the treble on the H50 it will definitely highlight that upper treble emphasis a bit. I like more copper properties on the H50. It balances out the detailed element of the treble more so than anything pure silver. Pure silver will make the treble end sound a bit more splashy. The gold plated ones adds a rounding character to notes and darkens tonality a bit. Synergistic wise the Solars make the H50 sound crazy higher end but those cost more than the IEMs. The 2nd runner up to those would be the GS849 cables.

Try the Penon GS849 if you want the best bang for your money synergy wise for the H50. It will bring that H50 up to a nice higher level. widens the stage from the ISN GS4 cables. Sounds superb using that cable. It is thicker but worth that bulk to get that sound. Lol.
 
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Nov 25, 2021 at 1:01 AM Post #3,697 of 13,596
Gives out energy without messing the upper treble.
Gives out better Mids body
Sames goes for the Bass...
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Nov 25, 2021 at 1:10 AM Post #3,698 of 13,596
So the ISN H50 is on sale folks. No brainer for that price
It seems to me there is no wow factor on Serial, it sounds okay but not great. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I am thinking perhaps I just add H50 into my ISN collections or save up for some times to get the Fiio FH9.
Will the FH9 be an upgrade from my EST50? I do not mind to have lesser bass quantity.

Thanks @Dsnuts
 
Nov 25, 2021 at 1:22 AM Post #3,699 of 13,596
J'ai la version 2 broches du Mix. J'utilise un adaptateur mmcx mais. Ils sonnent bien avec le H50 mais pour vous j'en aurais un GS4 ou même le Penon GS849
Cela coûte un peu plus cher, mais le Penon GS849 sonne de manière impressionnante sur le H50. J'irais avec ça à la place. L'argent sur le Mix fait ressortir ce détail des aigus. J'aime plus ce que les câbles plaqués or font pour le son H50 que le Mix. Ses propriétés de cuivre sont évidentes et jettent une scène plus large et plus large. Rend le son H50 plus dynamique et détaillé en même temps.

Vous n'aimerez peut-être pas ce que l'argent pur fait pour les aigus sur le H50, cela mettra certainement un peu l'accent sur les aigus supérieurs. J'aime plus les propriétés du cuivre sur le H50. Il équilibre l'élément détaillé des aigus plus que tout l'argent pur. L'argent pur rendra les aigus un peu plus éclatants. Les plaqués or ajoutent un caractère arrondi aux notes et assombrissent un peu la tonalité. Du point de vue synergique, les Solars donnent au H50 un son plus haut de gamme, mais ceux-ci coûtent plus cher que les IEM. Le deuxième finaliste serait les câbles GS849.

Essayez le Penon GS849 si vous voulez le meilleur rapport qualité-prix en termes de synergie pour le H50. Cela portera ce H50 à un niveau supérieur. élargit la scène des câbles ISN GS4. Sonne superbe en utilisant ce câble. Il est plus épais mais vaut ce volume pour obtenir ce son. MDR.
Thanks Dsnuts
 
Nov 25, 2021 at 1:24 AM Post #3,700 of 13,596
EST50s are superior to the Serial. But some might like the Serial tuning better so that is subjective. So I don't know if those will be an upgrade you're looking for. They certainly have a different sound. More upper mids on the Serial vs the EST50s. lesser extension for trebles vs EST50s est implementation but treble tonality is very nice on the Serial. Serial has excellent timbre and bass quality. Bass is no joke on them but the EST50s are more bass specialists. If you went for them it will be more dependent on the types of tuning you're after. But if you want that big bass dynamic full bored sound the FH9 I got recently is just that.

The price points are well representative of what you're getting here. Serials are most definitely worth adding to the Penon collection. They sound a bit like the Globes with slightly less lower mids and more upper mids emphasis. Sounds a touch more neutral in tonality over the Globes.
 
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Nov 25, 2021 at 1:45 AM Post #3,701 of 13,596
Gold plated coppers there both of the ones I showed on the review matches extremely well with the H50. I like what a bit of gold plating does for the sound tuning on the H50 but it also has a bit of silver plating in there too. If you want to dabble with cables The H50 is an excellent host for cable match ups. You can get the phones first and try your different 2 pin cables and it will give you a clue in the type of cable pairing you want to use with it. You might want a bit more warmth to the tonality or something that enhances detail and stage. The H50 and serail both match up well with cable pairings.

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This cable is on sale for $64!! That is a steal for these. https://penonaudio.com/isn-audio-gs4.html?page={page}

Copper will smooth out the treble and its tonal character. More nicer copper cables do a great job and detail retrieval. Not exactly pure silver level but it will depend on how smooth you want your H50 to sound. If you have some copper cables on hand you can try them. H50s stock cable is OK. it is the newer version of the ISN S8 cable. Good stock SPC cable but the cables I show on the photo will elevate the H50. More impactful bass and thickens the sound a touch too. The Penon GS849 even more so which also happens to be on sale for $134. But they are a bit on the bulky as it is almost double the material that is on the ISN GS4 pictured. If you don't like bulkier cables try the ISN GS4. That cable is like a cheap man's Solar. Will bring about 80% of the sound performance of the ISN flagship cables the Solar. It will clearly be an upgrade from the stock ISN S8 cables.
Probably I will try with H50 stock cable and some copper cables on hand first. But the price of ISN GS4 is tempting :D Do you mind roughly describe the sound difference between Mangird Tea and H50? I couldn't find FR curve of H50 in Crinacle website... Thanks again for your kind and detailed replies!
 
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Nov 25, 2021 at 4:01 AM Post #3,702 of 13,596
The Penon GS849 even more so which also happens to be on sale for $134. But they are a bit on the bulky as it is almost double the material that is on the ISN GS4 pictured. If you don't like bulkier cables try the ISN GS4. That cable is like a cheap man's Solar. Will bring about 80% of the sound performance of the ISN flagship cables the Solar. It will clearly be an upgrade from the stock ISN S8 cables.
GS894 is an interesting cable, is it different from GD849 or ISN GC4?
https://penonaudio.com/penon-gd849.html?search=penon&sort=p.price&order=DESC
https://penonaudio.com/penon-gs849.html?search=penon&sort=p.price&order=DESC
https://penonaudio.com/isn-audio-gc4.html?sort=p.price&order=DESC

They have almost same price but i bet very different tuning, reading ISN GC4 description should gave rounded high, smooth analogue sound so it would pair with analitical/narrowed iems to get more body and stage.

How is GD849 and GS849 behaviour?
 
Nov 25, 2021 at 9:02 AM Post #3,703 of 13,596
@Dsnuts is sounding quite subdued and guarded with the wording of comments regarding the Serial compared to a number of different IEMs of late. Hmmmm...

Anyways, my Serial has been shipped. :)
 
Nov 25, 2021 at 9:11 AM Post #3,704 of 13,596
Nov 25, 2021 at 9:11 AM Post #3,705 of 13,596
@Dsnuts is sounding quite subdued and guarded with the wording of comments regarding the Serial compared to a number of different IEMs of late. Hmmmm...

Anyways, my Serial has been shipped. :)

Let us know what you think. I'm sure they'll be good, but the question is how good and that'll become more apparent with time. I'm sure they will be competitive at their pricepoint for lovers of DD setups.
 

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