The Official Beyerdynamic T1 Impressions and Discussion Thread
Nov 24, 2016 at 12:43 PM Post #10,471 of 10,994
Mine sound great out of my Master-11, but would love to use them in balanced mode because of the increase in volume and, well, because all the chicks love balanced headphones right?
 
Nov 24, 2016 at 12:54 PM Post #10,472 of 10,994
Bought a Garage Polaris recently for when I didn't want to wait for tube warm up and short sessions. Never tired my T1's with it thinking it just wouldn't do them justice. Pleasantly surprised to find out I was wrong. T1's sound pretty stellar from the Polaris, I prefer my tube amp, but for short sessions its been a pretty capable amp.
 
Nov 28, 2016 at 7:38 AM Post #10,473 of 10,994
Looking for recommendations for a specialised company or fellow Head-Fi member - based in the EU - to have my T1 modded and have a Black Dragon V2 cable reterminated for it.

Have been eying on this one https://customcans.co.uk/s/s/index.php/beyerdynamic-t1-modifications.html

Also, in your opinion what would be the best way and type of (interchangeable) connection for the T1 and to what result?

Thank you
 
Nov 28, 2016 at 2:22 PM Post #10,474 of 10,994
Looking for recommendations for a specialised company or fellow Head-Fi member - based in the EU - to have my T1 modded and have a Black Dragon V2 cable reterminated for it.

Have been eying on this one https://customcans.co.uk/s/s/index.php/beyerdynamic-t1-modifications.html

Also, in your opinion what would be the best way and type of (interchangeable) connection for the T1 and to what result?

Thank you

Mini-XLR is what I've used for removable cable mods on my T1 & DT-990.  Never tried the Black Dragon cable so can't comment about it.  I usually use Mogomi, Canare and Cardas cables which I've found to be sonically the same as my Forza and Double-Helix cables at 1/5 the price, but this is just me.
 
Nov 28, 2016 at 3:16 PM Post #10,475 of 10,994
Mini-XLR is what I've used for removable cable mods on my T1 & DT-990.  Never tried the Black Dragon cable so can't comment about it.  I usually use Mogomi, Canare and Cardas cables which I've found to be sonically the same as my Forza and Double-Helix cables at 1/5 the price, but this is just me.


Thank you, much appreciated. Couldn't resist a very good deal on a lengthy Black Dragon so I took it. Very happy with the T1 I think it's worth to have it modded for connectors and experiment with that. If general consensus is mini-XLR the ideal standard for the T1 I'll go with that. Thanks again.

You wouldn't happen to have any experience with the UK CustomCans guys or know anyone who to trust my beloved T1's with?
 
Nov 28, 2016 at 4:34 PM Post #10,476 of 10,994
Thank you, much appreciated. Couldn't resist a very good deal on a lengthy Black Dragon so I took it. Very happy with the T1 I think it's worth to have it modded for connectors and experiment with that. If general consensus is mini-XLR the ideal standard for the T1 I'll go with that. Thanks again.

You wouldn't happen to have any experience with the UK CustomCans guys or know anyone who to trust my beloved T1's with?

Sorry, I'm in the US and haven't dealt with any custom modders.  I have talked with PETEREK (has a thread on all of his custom mods) and he has provided me with much valuable info for modding.
 
Doing the mini-XLR mod is not the easiest but if you feel like getting your feet wet with DIY its a nice place to start.
 
Nov 29, 2016 at 2:41 AM Post #10,477 of 10,994
Sorry, I'm in the US and haven't dealt with any custom modders.  I have talked with PETEREK (has a thread on all of his custom mods) and he has provided me with much valuable info for modding.

Doing the mini-XLR mod is not the easiest but if you feel like getting your feet wet with DIY its a nice place to start.


The mods on that thread look great, however I don't intend to screw up my cans even if it looks easy, I know my boundaries and like the T1's.

@all: Still open to any suggestions for companies in the EU to perform cable mods on the T1
 
Dec 5, 2016 at 6:49 AM Post #10,478 of 10,994
  My T1 [#1376] started to sound relatively harsh and sibilant over the past 3 months or so and my ears start to fatigue after barely an hour =[  Which is really disappointing since the reason I loved them so much is because they were the most lush sounding headphones I've ever listened to and I could normally do 6hrs+ of listening without any fatigue.

I've notice the earpads' puffiness have reduced heaps (they're at like 50% of their original volume). Also, the cable on one side has gotten hard and is cracking revealing the wire and the headband is starting to fall apart. These have been my main can's for nearly 7 years so I think its time for some renovation.

I have washed the pads twice since I received the cans, which made a huge difference to the appearance and volume but the leather that holds them to the cups are tearing so  I've ordered some new DT990 pads and the headband from the Custom One Pro. Will be trimming off the hardened and cracking part of the cable and re-soldering, keeping the original cable since its high quality. Might also add some housing and driver dampening to get rid of the harshness and sibilance and to bring the sound closer to the T1.2, if the pad's alone aren't enough to bring it back to it's original glory. Will let you guys know how it goes.
 
 
Pic I took when I first got em:
 

 
 
Using a Yulong D100 DAC-AMP to drive them:

 
 
New headband cover, ear-pads and trimmed down the hardened cable. Haven't done the dampening mods just yet, want to get my ears used to the sound with the new pads first.
Initial impressions are that the sound signature has reverted back to its classic T1 sound. The harshness is gone and so is the associated fatigue. The original expansive soundstage has also returned. The sibilance is almost gone. Some dampening should improve this - will try the westone true fit driver dampening mod down the track and report back.
I cleaned the earcups and cable in hot soapy water. The newer section of un-weathered cable feels so soft and compliant that it feels as if I've gotten a recable!
 
The headphones look,feel and sound new again! 7 years young.
 
 
Before:

 
 
After:

 
Before:


After:

 

 

 
 
My Rig: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ahil/14489145467/
 
Dec 8, 2016 at 8:44 PM Post #10,479 of 10,994
I got the SonarWorks "Reference 3 Headphone Plugin" during there black Friday sale. It's $99 now (they say save $40, but I think $99 is the regular price).
 
http://storeus.sonarworks.com/collections/sonarworks-model-based-headphone-calibration-download-only/products/sonarworks-reference-3-headphone-plugin
 
It took me some time to figure out how to use it on a Mac, but I wrote instructions at https://1drv.ms/w/s!AtMV-AQgKZCXgfRLHLI6LcnXoh0zKw (This is a one drive link)
 
It's basically a set of eq presets with some capability to dial in "wet vs. dry" - sort of a percentage of how much to apply the eq, as well the ability to tilt the frequency response to the right or left. The eq preset is based on their very serious average measurements of the T1. They have a number of other preset as well.
 
All I can say it wow. new headphones. The T1 can totally take some EQ in the bass, and Sonarworks has hit the nail on the head. perfect.
 
If you have windows, I don't think it's quite as hard to set up as with the Mac. The nice thing about the Mac set up is that because all sound is routed through Sound Siphon (free), the EQ plug in words for all outputs. Also, there are other plugins you can use for free (31 band eq, crossfeed, for example).  
 
Update later that night: Now I'm not so sure about the T1 preset for Sonar Works. I do like ability to customize, but now I'm finding I prefer a simply bass boost for < 100Hz with the 31 band equalizer. SonarWorks is messing with the soundstage. So, never mind.
 
Jan 1, 2017 at 10:59 AM Post #10,481 of 10,994
Hi all,
I'm looking for a pair of headphones to replace my T70's, and I am considering a T1. Previously I had eliminated the T1 from consideration because of price and tonality, (I like warm-ish headphones) but then I learned about the silent revision. My question is: are the late T1's properly warm headphones, like Amiron's or HD600's, or are they still bright-ish, like HE560's?
 
Jan 1, 2017 at 11:43 AM Post #10,482 of 10,994
  Hi all,
I'm looking for a pair of headphones to replace my T70's, and I am considering a T1. Previously I had eliminated the T1 from consideration because of price and tonality, (I like warm-ish headphones) but then I learned about the silent revision. My question is: are the late T1's properly warm headphones, like Amiron's or HD600's, or are they still bright-ish, like HE560's?

 
Both HD600 and Amiron are warmer and darker than the T1.1
 
T1.1 is more along the lines of HE560, both neutralish headphones.
You might find that the T1 has just a tiny bit more bass punch and more treble as well.
HE560 might appear as slightly leaner and smoother.
 
If you want warmish/darkish then check the Audeze LCD line of headphones, Nighthawks, HD650
 
Jan 1, 2017 at 9:11 PM Post #10,484 of 10,994
He560 vs T1 is a close call but I find the T1's imaging to be better, and the build quality to be superior.  T1 does have a bit more bass kick depending on the revision. With the 560 You're looking at a wood veneer and a clanky headband system that honestly doesn't impress me personally.  
 
Jan 2, 2017 at 2:22 AM Post #10,485 of 10,994
  He560 vs T1 is a close call but I find the T1's imaging to be better, and the build quality to be superior.  T1 does have a bit more bass kick depending on the revision. With the 560 You're looking at a wood veneer and a clanky headband system that honestly doesn't impress me personally.  

I hate clanky headbands. I like to move my head around to the rhythm of the music and headband noise is very intrusive and annoying.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top