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The New Schiit Audio Yggdrasil Impressions thread (read the first post)

Discussion in 'High-end Audio Forum' started by Currawong, Jun 9, 2018.
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  1. Currawong Contributor
    Since the old thread is unrecoverable, having descended too far into off-topic arguments, I'm starting a new thread.

    Note for conspiracy theorists:
    "I" does not mean "they". I did this of my own volition. I am not staff. People who are considering buying a product like to read customer impressions. This includes me, as I have been considering upgrading my original Yggy for some time.

    Impressions only!

    Impressions with headphones, amps, other components, compared to other gear.
    Impressions with mods, even controversial ones. I suggest saying "I felt it sounded better/worse after I ..." rather than definitive statements.
    Questions about impressions and sound (by other owners or by potential buyers) are most welcome.

    Not OK:
    Any other discussion that isn't directly related to one's impressions.
    Shipping or stock availability discussion.
    Warranty, service or upgrade issues.
    Measurement discussion.
    Discussion about the company or people in it.
    Posts by people who don't own an Yggy and haven't ever auditioned one (excepting questions mentioned above).

    All that other stuff goes in the general discussion thread (https://www.head-fi.org/threads/new-schiit-ragnarok-and-yggdrasil.667711/), or start your own specific thread about those topics.
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2018
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  2. the finisher
    I love to tell you mine,compared to my AK4490 dac in the Jot. Yggy is much more resolving, even on a less resolving HP like the HD 6xx.
    The soundstage is holographic on my very large desk with the Focals compared to the D/S dac. I certainly am getting a love for headphone listening with the LCD Xs and this rig.
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  3. the finisher
    I have heard that the Jot really wakes the 6xx's up, I just got mine and am waiting for a nice balanced cable, but already they are amazing for $200:L3000:
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  4. D2Girls
  5. sennsay
    Now, holography I'm into! If my favourite 29 year old Ref1s can effectively disappear, seemingly along with the bones of my head, with the Mimby and Magni 3, then the Yggy really ought to be something! It will probably end up in my main system connected to a nice preamp and then to the Yamaha HS8 studio monitors that now reside in my newly downsized lounge system.
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  6. the finisher
    The holographic image I'm primarily describing is with my studio monitors, and they do disappear.
    The Imaging with the LCD Xs is more like you are on stage than in the front row. Very good but smaller. I still prefer speakers.

    Still getting a handle on the HD 6xx sound, but it's very different from the orthos. I like it.
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2018
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  7. sennsay
    Yes and very different than my Ref1s as well .. which have been described by a thread pal as having sig that is very similar to the LCD3s, just much easier to drive! I'm not talking stock standard Ref 1s though, only as I/we have them. I really do wonder what the Yggy may bring to them? I don't know anyone local who has one.
    In my experience with both the Schiit stack and the R2R, the HD6xx are less 3D in their staging - though better with the Mogami cable, tend to push the mids forward and roll off the lower bass, again less so with the R2R, but still there with the stock pads. Quite good detail too, but not with the utter naturalness of the Ref 1s. I've tried both Brainwavz HM5s (blech! far too bass heavy and rolled tops) and the beautifully made Dekoni Elite Velour pads which are halfway between the stock and HM5 pads but still unbalanced on both the M/M3 and R2R. I should have probably gone for the Hybrids instead.
    Since this is not a HD6xx thread :) I shall get back on topic and ask if the Yggy really is a rhythm hound as I've read elsewhere? The M/M3/Ref1s most certainly have the most rhythmic integrity and organic wholeness of any combo I've used ever and if the Yggy will do this and more, I'm in!
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2018
  8. the finisher
    Many others have more experience comparing Yaggy to other dac's here. But it is a forward sounding dac for sure.
    Just not fatiguing in any way. Which is exactly what I was looking for.
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2018
  9. sennsay
    Well that is very good to know. This is what my Ref1s are already like ... maybe too much of a good thing? Hard to tell yet. Like your LCDXs, I LIKE being on stage :) That's exactly as I have described the Ref1s with the Schiit stack combo elsewhere. It's what I love about the combo, because the gear vanishes and I am in with the musicians, not looking at them from outside the studio glass window with the engineer. Same with a live concert, uncannily surrounded by the audience, some sounds appearing to come from slightly behind my ears, tiny sounds coming from in space well in front of me, in vertical height as well. The stunning Ricki Lee Jones live album, Naked Songs, is wonderful for this. I do understand though that for orchestral music this is not necessarily the best vantage point :)
    This is why I ask about the Yggy, forward, alive, yet unfatiguing. Great! Like what I have already, just at a higher level. I enjoy being immersed in the music, the electronics are out of the way, the headphone capsules take a hike after a few moments and I'm there, not observing, simply feeling it. Not thinking about if the bass is coloured with these cans, or if the treble is too forward, the Ref1s as I have them just have an organic holistic wholeness to them that lends one to just relax and dissolve instantly. What the Yggy might bring to that experience boggles my mind ..... or won't work at all, heh heh. None of my other headphones provide this level of complete involvement. The HD6xx come a little closer with the R2R ... but have a ways to go.
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2018
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  10. the finisher
    Yes you are a good wordsmith. The monitors are in the front row/mixing booth. The Xs are more intimate.
    The detail is sometimes stunning with the small but enveloping soundfield.
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  11. sennsay
    Thank you.
    I have the new Yamaha HS8 monitors in my lounge and they are certainly nothing like the headphone experience, not that I expected them too, but the system is new and evolving, nothing yet like the brilliant Triangle Antal EX speakers I had until recently! Sadly they were a little large for our new lounge (12' sq) to really be at their best, as they were in the previous home. I'm sure the new stands coming in a couple of days will help the Yams perform to a higher level. I'm considering Yggy here, with a valve preamp or hybrid there-of.
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  12. the finisher
    Wow ya big speakers for a small room, that's why I love the Focals. Designed for 1 to 3 meter listening.
    Cool, happy listening. See you around soon.

    I am CDT so I'm out :sleeping:
  13. gdhal
    Is it okay to have an impression about the A1 versus A2? Technically that is different gear. Remember how great everyone felt/believed the A1 sounds? Then, Schiit must have realized something - presumably measurable - introduced a fix and here we are today with an A2 that sounds better.
  14. RCBinTN
    The A1 vs. A2 is one of the things about Yggy that I'm most interested in learning more about....:)
  15. ToTo Man
    My impressions that I posted on the previous thread on 4th May 2018, worth reposting I hope :smile_phones::

    Last edited: Jun 10, 2018
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