[nomad777]

I recently bought the 1266 TC and have been listening to it non stop for about 3 days now to get used to the sound signature. The amp I'm using is the Woo Audio WA 33 elite with more than enough power and detail.

Do I think its the best headphone yes and no. The yes part its extremely well balanced low, mid , high's and provides good detail. Sometimes the bass can be a bit much....However....

Here's the no part. It's not the only headphone I would want to own. I also have the Focal Utopias, Clears, HD800, and HE1000 each of those headphones does do some things better than the TC.

Utopias are the narrow band detail king and some songs do have more detail than the TC; sometimes the TC's bass gets in the way of micro details
Clears are very similar to the TC's in respect to sound signature well balanced
HE1000's larger sound stage and have extreme detail like the utopias
HD800 larger sound stage

I don't regret buying them for their balanced approach and can see why Steve Guttenberg and Z reviews like them; but if I had one to only own it would be a toss up between the TC and the HE1000's for the setup I have.

 

[ken6217]

You can adjust it to lessen the bass. Play around with it.

 

[CreditingKarma]

I recently bought the 1266 TC and have been listening to it non stop for about 3 days now to get used to the sound signature. The amp I'm using is the Woo Audio WA 33 elite with more than enough power and detail.

Do I think its the best headphone yes and no. The yes part its extremely well balanced low, mid , high's and provides good detail. Sometimes the bass can be a bit much....However....

Here's the no part. It's not the only headphone I would want to own. I also have the Focal Utopias, Clears, HD800, and HE1000 each of those headphones does do some things better than the TC.

Utopias are the narrow band detail king and some songs do have more detail than the TC; sometimes the TC's bass gets in the way of micro details
Clears are very similar to the TC's in respect to sound signature well balanced
HE1000's larger sound stage and have extreme detail like the utopias
HD800 larger sound stage

I don't regret buying them for their balanced approach and can see why Steve Guttenberg and Z reviews like them; but if I had one to only own it would be a toss up between the TC and the HE1000's for the setup I have.

I find the abyss sound stage to be on par with the hd800. The 800 seems to be artificially large at times though.

 

[nomad777]

I find the abyss sound stage to be on par with the hd800. The 800 dems to be artificially large at times though.

Hmm I don't mind the soundstage it just doesn't have the same detail as the HE1000's which surpass it in soundstage in my opinion; just a better sounding headphone.

 

[nomad777]

You can adjust it to lessen the bass. Play around with it.

Moving the earpieces around etc.. is not enough it has to be eq'd but won't do that for a bit. Perhaps after a week of playing time

 

[nomad777]

oh one more thing I will replace the stock cable with an 7N silver one later on... I don't recommend buying the overpriced cable from jps labs

 

[ken6217]

oh one more thing I will replace the stock cable with an 7N silver one later on... I don't recommend buying the overpriced cable from jps labs

How does the upgraded cable sound?

 

[jlbrach]

I find the abyss sound stage to be on par with the hd800. The 800 dems to be artificially large at times though.

to me the 800's always had what I can best describe as an artificial soundstage, the TC to me is as large but more natural....to me thee proper comparison to th TC is the susvara not the 1000....the 1000 series is fantastic in its own right but ultimately the susvara betters it convincingly...I for a short time thought otherwise

 

[nomad777]

to me the 800's always had what I can best describe as an artificial soundstage, the TC to me is as large but more natural....to me thee proper comparison to th TC is the susvara not the 1000....the 1000 series is fantastic in its own right but ultimately the susvara betters it convincingly...I for a short time thought otherwise

hmm the Susvara does have more detail but the soundstage is not as large as the HE1000's and the 15% extra detail really isn't worth it. The He1000 bass is also stronger.

 

[nomad777]

How does the upgraded cable sound?

I don't have it yet... but if I go from past experience where I do have them eg.. he1000's they add more of everything. Think of a musical verb layering, soundstage etc.. and it adds it...

 

[jlbrach]

I do not agree that the 1000 soundstage is larger...it is different the susvara is deeper....the susvara has more detail and better bass ....the discussion of what is worth what is purely subjective, if you can addord it it is worth it

 

[ken6217]

Oh, I was wondering if you had heard it since you said it was overpriced. I guess you mean expensive.

 

[nomad777]

I do not agree that the 1000 soundstage is larger...it is different the susvara is deeper....the susvara has more detail and better bass ....the discussion of what is worth what is purely subjective, if you can addord it it is worth it

Well we disagree then. By soundstage I don't mean deeper i mean larger and just by comparison the he1000 are a larger headphone. I'm not saying they are better overall just bigger soundstage and the bass is stronger; harder more slam.

 

[nomad777]

Oh, I was wondering if you had heard it since you said it was overpriced. I guess you mean expensive.

I mean the JPS labs superconductor is over priced... and it is....

 

[ken6217]

I mean the JPS labs superconductor is over priced... and it is....

It's tough to say what's overpriced or not in this hobby, especially when you haven't heard it. Some people might this the TC is overpriced, and some wouldn't.