[Ivabign]

I actually feel that the Monster Gratitude IEM is a well-tuned IEM.  It's not flat neutral, but it doesn't perform beneath its price point, its quite comparable to others in its price range. 

I like these as well (when I get a decent fit - The Monster tips included were rubbish). But at retail - $229 - I don't think I would agree that they are a value. But at $35 ( refurb from Monster) they are fabulous.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

I like these as well (when I get a decent fit - The Monster tips included were rubbish). But at retail - $229 - I don't think I would agree that they are a value. But at $35 ( refurb from Monster) they are fabulous.

 
That's why nothing ever really sells at retail. They're $65 on Amazon. 
 
Side note, I was pretty impressed with the DNA in-ear. Actually I think the DNA line in general is excellent.

 

[SilverEars]

Yes, some are marked down a huge percentage.  Those are the ones not so popular.  But, higher-end of brands like Shures, UE, and Westones stay close to retail or stay at retail.
 
I think over time, if the headphones get marked down significantly, that tells you it's not as great as they initially valued it.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

  Yes, some are marked down a huge percentage.  Those are the ones not so popular.  But, higher-end of brands like Shures, UE, and Westones stay close to retail or stay at retail.
 
I think over time, if the headphones get marked down significantly, that tells you it's not as great as they initially valued it.

 
Like the Mikros 90?

 

[tinyman392]

I like these as well (when I get a decent fit - The Monster tips included were rubbish). But at retail - $229 - I don't think I would agree that they are a value. But at $35 ( refurb from Monster) they are fabulous.

The shape makes the Gratitude's fit iffy :/

 

[tinyman392]

Yes, some are marked down a huge percentage.  Those are the ones not so popular.  But, higher-end of brands like Shures, UE, and Westones stay close to retail or stay at retail.

I think over time, if the headphones get marked down significantly, that tells you it's not as great as they initially valued it.

All things get marked down with price. You just have to give it time.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

All things get marked down with price. You just have to give it time.

 
Yep.
 
Shure SE535-V, from $550 to $430: http://amzn.com/B003NSBKT6
 
Shure SE215-CL, from $200 to $100: http://amzn.com/B004PO10E2
 
Ultimate Ears Triple Fi 10, $400 to $300: http://amzn.com/B0019RBJOE
 
UE Triple Fi 4, $130 to $40: http://amzn.com/B000Y8Y8FG
 
Westone seems to stick around MSRP, but then it also seems like Amazon doesn't sell any Westone directly, so who knows.

 

[Zelda]

   
It's like we're the same person!

if only he listed the H100 too

 

[SilverEars]

All things get marked down with price. You just have to give it time.

True, but the ones that are truly not liked, goes down quicker and in significant percentage than others.  535 has been stable for a long time until the 846 came out.  HD650 has been stable for a long time with some ups and downs, but no drastic drops.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

  True, but the ones that are truly not liked, goes down quicker and in significant percentage than others.  535 has been stable for a long time until the 846 came out.  HD650 has been stable for a long time with some ups and downs, but no drastic drops.

 
Was the Gratitude ever actually on a shelf for $229, or was that MSRP the way most things are MSRP? 
 
You're just trying to bend over backwards to hate on Monster while ignoring the Head-fi DARLINGS, the Mikros 90, are actually marked down MORE than the Gratitudes. 

 

[SilverEars]

   
Was the Gratitude ever actually on a shelf for $229, or was that MSRP the way most things are MSRP? 
 
You're just trying to bend over backwards to hate on Monster while ignoring the Head-fi DARLINGS, the Mikros 90, are actually marked down MORE than the Gratitudes. 

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I like these as well (when I get a decent fit - The Monster tips included were rubbish). But at retail - $229 - I don't think I would agree that they are a value. But at $35 ( refurb from Monster) they are fabulous.

 
I'm confused.  Was this message intended for me?  If so, what gives you the idea that I do? 

 

 

[thapchild]

Se846? At its price point I was expecting a competition with high end aggressive CIEMs but oh did the smoothness disappoint me.

IM04 sounded unnatural.

W4R Had weird vocals and did not command the 729 price tag in my country try

ER4P was kinda meh and it costs 439 in my country.

JH16 sounded like it had really muffled vocals to me and at the time it cost 1888 from jaben.

ASG2 was a big let down. Sounded muddy and as if ASG didn't have a sound tester.

 
I think your JH16 were broken then.  My JH16 make me JoyGasim every time I put them on.  I've owned 2 pair of TF10s, (one driver went out and they replaced them for free).  The JH16 are the TF10 on steroids.  Same sound curve, just more clarity, sound stage, separation.
 
I think they are expensive, but until 6 months ago, what was "better" in their tier?  It's pretty subjective.

 

[thapchild]

   
Yep.
 
Shure SE535-V, from $550 to $430: http://amzn.com/B003NSBKT6
 
Shure SE215-CL, from $200 to $100: http://amzn.com/B004PO10E2
 
Ultimate Ears Triple Fi 10, $400 to $300: http://amzn.com/B0019RBJOE
 
UE Triple Fi 4, $130 to $40: http://amzn.com/B000Y8Y8FG
 
Westone seems to stick around MSRP, but then it also seems like Amazon doesn't sell any Westone directly, so who knows.

 
I picked up a pair to TF10s for a gift to a family member for $150 about a year ago off Amazon.  If they are still around, they are probably dirt cheap.

 

[lookingforIEMs]

I think your JH16 were broken then.  My JH16 make me JoyGasim every time I put them on.  I've owned 2 pair of TF10s, (one driver went out and they replaced them for free).  The JH16 are the TF10 on steroids.  Same sound curve, just more clarity, sound stage, separation.

I think they are expensive, but until 6 months ago, what was "better" in their tier?  It's pretty subjective.

It wasn't mine haha, it was Jaben' s. First thing that hit me was the lack of clarity. Somehow when I listened to my friends TF10, I could detect some clarity. Perhaps I should do a side by side comparison as that's always the best, oh well once I'm done with my exams around October ill ask him out to jaben again