The discovery thread!
Nov 7, 2024 at 8:42 AM Post #132,287 of 136,677
Have always consider Crin's reviews and, in particular, scores as one of my references to consider before buying anything.
Now Crin is on other business.... but I wonder which reviewer(s) would you consider reliable?
Which ranking scoring would you consider?

(as ever trying to avoid paid-for zealots and promotional channels)
I really like Dave from Gizaudio and Audio-In. Very constructive, unbiased and high production value.
Edit: Resolve is great too.
 
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Nov 7, 2024 at 9:08 AM Post #132,290 of 136,677
Free advice is worth what you paid for it, but being rich is massively overrated. The rich people I've known in my life time that aren't miserable have a middle class life style and have learned to focus on their families. Let medical doctors, lawyers, and licensed engineers be your lifestyle guide, not the nouveau riche. That guy you see biking to work in the rain could have a portfolio worth 5 million and you'd never know it. For 99% of us, luxury spending is the enemy of building a small amount of wealth and shaking free of the day job
I’m not sure where you’re getting all of this just based on what I said, but sure.
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 10:23 AM Post #132,291 of 136,677
Woke up to a busy schedule, and all I want to do is listen to the Origin 😩

it’s too good.

Edit - this combo my goodness
IMG_9496.jpeg
 
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Nov 7, 2024 at 10:33 AM Post #132,292 of 136,677
This got me thinking (again) ...

At one point we all become slaves to our luxury goods, but shaking free of the day job sure sounds even more luxurious than the finest of IEMs or cars. Easier said than done, though.
Unsolicited advice from an elder: you’re young, so start automating what you pay into a retirement account, savings, etc. Doesn’t need to be much. Build up those amounts slowly as your income increases. And don’t use credit to pay for luxuries. If you can do those two things now, you’ll be able to retire at a young enough age to actually enjoy it.

Have always consider Crin's reviews and, in particular, scores as one of my references to consider before buying anything.
Now Crin is on other business.... but I wonder which reviewer(s) would you consider reliable?
Which ranking scoring would you consider?

(as ever trying to avoid paid-for zealots and promotional channels)
Crin still does reviews even if he doesn’t call them that. And he hired Timmy to do the reviews he doesn’t have time for.

As for which specific other reviewers I find reliable, you’ll find many prior posts in this thread from all of us listing our favorites. I think we might have all answered this question just a few days ago even. You should be able to find many good suggestions. Happy hunting!

Well I said the Fan 3 has lacking subbass? well, depends on the source. On the R4, there's plenty of subbass, ok, well, still not subwoofer level, but enough for me to enjoy the subtle basslines on those tracks I was having issues with. The dongle I had been using from my phone is usually quite adequate, but here I can really tell a difference!
EDIT: I discovered on the R4, the Amazon music app had bass added to the EQ.. well regardless, it just goes to show you can EQ in more bass to the Fan 3 just fine!
If you’re looking for better bass response and have the R4 (or another R-series DAP from Hiby), I recommend trying the DRX plugin. It’s probably the solution you’re looking for.
 
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Nov 7, 2024 at 10:34 AM Post #132,293 of 136,677
At one point we all become slaves to our luxury goods, but shaking free of the day job sure sounds even more luxurious than the finest of IEMs or cars. Easier said than done, though.
Being self-employed or running a small business is where it's at, but mine is only 1 opinion. Having control of your own schedule is worth most of the downside to having less income.

I’m not sure where you’re getting all of this just based on what I said, but sure.
heh - yeah, apologies. I meant to preface that comment with something to the effect of: your priorities already sound right to me! I see so many younger folks these days who idolize being wealthy, similar to the way I once did, which led to several big mistakes. triggered. :sweat_smile:
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 10:45 AM Post #132,294 of 136,677
heh - yeah, apologies. I meant to preface that comment with something to the effect of: your priorities already sound right to me! I see so many younger folks these days who idolize being wealthy, similar to the way I once did, which led to several big mistakes. triggered. :sweat_smile:
That would of made a lot more sense lol sorry about my comment earlier, btw, I'm reading it back it sounded kind of douch-bag-ish, my bad lol

I don't idolize being wealthy, and I wouldn't say I'm of the younger folk demographic anymore either, but where I work and with what I do for a living I have been surrounded by wealthy people every single day for the last 6 years and I've met all kinds. Some are nice and down to earth, some are rude and really entitled. Some are just straight up spunky and free, and some are very conservative (you'd never know they're as wealthy as they are without seeing a credit application filled out).

But, I do love cars. Not the flash or the pizazz. But the drive and engineering.

Anyways, Rant over :)
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 10:46 AM Post #132,295 of 136,677
Woke up to a busy schedule, and all I want to do is listen to the Origin 😩

it’s too good.

Edit - this combo my goodness



How loud do you listen? Are we talking earth shattering Batman levels?

That bone conduction driver also works as a sonar detection device....
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 10:48 AM Post #132,296 of 136,677
Being self-employed or running a small business is where it's at, but mine is only 1 opinion. Having control of your own schedule is worth most of the downside to having less income.
Seconded. Others with the same amount of professional schooling and experience I have often make 3-4 times the salary I do, but they don’t have anywhere near the flexibility or autonomy that I do. All about priorities.

It’s also a reason why I’ve found myself in the IEM game. I can get a heckuva lot more bang for my buck with IEMs than with headphones, and waaaay more than with speakers. I had to say “good enough” to my speaker rig a handful of years ago. And while I still have my eye out for deals on good headphones, it’s nice to be in a corner of the audio hobby where I can still justify spending money on new, quality gear like IEMs. Great sound quality for way less money.
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 10:48 AM Post #132,297 of 136,677
Woke up to a busy schedule, and all I want to do is listen to the Origin 😩

it’s too good.

Edit - this combo my goodness
IMG_9496.jpeg

This is like the Meta set-up right now, congrats.

I am really eying either the Origin or the New Kiwi Punch to replace my Titans and their horrible fit but god damn is the Titan's 2nd hand market in the dumps. I'm seeing sets under $650 that aren't selling... that's bad. If I can't sell the Titans then there's no way I can justify buying either the Punch or the Origin...
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 10:57 AM Post #132,298 of 136,677
MAIL CALL
Am I doing this right? 😅

I'm not even going to pretend I'm good at taking photos, but these are so beautiful, they even shine with my poor skills:
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First impressions of the TSMR Armor: I agree with a lot @Dsnuts said about them (thanks for the recommendation by the way). I feel they are much warmer, more amiable than the X. The bass doesn't impress with the same visceral, majestic power. It is slightly more boomy in nature and, honestly, I didn't really like it that much in the stock DUD setting. It reminded me somewhat on a speaker that has been put on a much resonating wooden box. Overpowering and somewhat dull. Switched to UDD and now we're talking. This is still ample bass, but now I can enjoy electronic music without a permanent droning background. Don't even want to touch that third switch, but I'm sure there are a lot of people whose language that will speak. The upper treble has something magical. It's clearly a little boosted, but has this silky texture to it, that somehow doesn't let it get sharp. Sometimes a little disjointed up there, but in an amazingly captivating fashion. I wouldn't rate these too high regarding techincal capabilities. Vocals sound fantastic. Stage is on the average side, wide same as tall.
Honestly, without the switch, I might have said these aren't playing in the correct price range. For me, the default setting is too boomy, not really enarmored (pun intended). But in UDD they are a worthy addition to my collection and I actually like them almost more than the X after an hour of listening.
Ah one more note: The nozzles are super short here. The screen of default penon grey / green tips is in full contact with the shell when mounted, just for reference.

Graphs from my squig:
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Also in the mail:
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I'm not a headphone guy, really. I've heard the Shure SRH440, SRH840, and Sennheiser HD600. None of these were for me. I felt the treble was peaky on all of them to the point where I just can't enjoy music. The Moondrop Singer are different. They don't play in the same league as the HD600 regarding size of stage and airiness of course. But they more than make up for it by tonality. This is one of the cases where I was meh in the beginning, but just let them sit on my head while working. And the more songs I listened to, the more awed I was. Such a clean execution, no peaks, no graininess, no overzealous piercing upper treble. The bass is something else, too. It doesn't give you special effects like the TSMR X, but hits damn hard and accurate to the point where I can feel the rumble. I think the initial boredom and subsequent fascination speak for a quite neutral tuning. One that is clearly bass boosted. If someone is looking for TWS closed backs in the 70ish $ price range, that don't have any special tonality boost, this is not a bad pick at all. For me, it is the best over ear headphone I have heard. But again, they usually don't suit me (my set of HD600 had a 10kHz peak I just couldn't cope with).
Build quality is good, the gold parts appear to be metal hinges, but only time will tell. The pads are very comfortable for my medium sized ears. Everything feels pretty high quality for the price. Oh and it can handle LDAC.
There are a couple of downsides, though:
- ANC isn't as good as on their IEM TWS. I hear pops when sitting in a vehicle that hits potholes or when someone slams a door. Also voices almost sound like they are fed through!?
- The mobile iOS app does not yet identify these correctly. I am in discussion with Moondrop about it, but they didn't give me a time frame for the update yet.
- By default, they are set on "High Gain". This would be customizable in the app, which per above I can't use. Used a colleagues Android phone to set them to low gain. On high, the lower volume increments are so far apart that lowest is way too quiet and second lowest is way too loud. Also prompts scale with gain and are way over board in high gain mode.


And sorry, couldn't partake more, but I'm eagerly following everything here. Just to get a few brief responses out there for things I have read over the time: @Leonarfd condolences to you! Really sorry about what happened with your dog. @SpaceOperaVillain thanks for many educating and entertaining posts in the recent past, really dig those! @FreeWheelinAudioLuv2 great you're getting (back) to being a reviewer! Looking forward to a lot more impressions from you! @Ozboyblu hope you enjoy the Armor as much as I do! :)
 
Nov 7, 2024 at 10:59 AM Post #132,300 of 136,677
The problem is it's the colour of ear wax...

MAIL CALL
Am I doing this right? 😅

I'm not even going to pretend I'm good at taking photos, but these are so beautiful, they even shine with my poor skills:

First impressions of the TSMR Armor: I agree with a lot @Dsnuts said about them (thanks for the recommendation by the way). I feel they are much warmer, more amiable than the X. The bass doesn't impress with the same visceral, majestic power. It is slightly more boomy in nature and, honestly, I didn't really like it that much in the stock DUD setting. It reminded me somewhat on a speaker that has been put on a much resonating wooden box. Overpowering and somewhat dull. Switched to UDD and now we're talking. This is still ample bass, but now I can enjoy electronic music without a permanent droning background. Don't even want to touch that third switch, but I'm sure there are a lot of people whose language that will speak. The upper treble has something magical. It's clearly a little boosted, but has this silky texture to it, that somehow doesn't let it get sharp. Sometimes a little disjointed up there, but in an amazingly captivating fashion. I wouldn't rate these too high regarding techincal capabilities. Vocals sound fantastic. Stage is on the average side, wide same as tall.
Honestly, without the switch, I might have said these aren't playing in the correct price range. For me, the default setting is too boomy, not really enarmored (pun intended). But in UDD they are a worthy addition to my collection and I actually like them almost more than the X after an hour of listening.
Ah one more note: The nozzles are super short here. The screen of default penon grey / green tips is in full contact with the shell when mounted, just for reference.

Graphs from my squig:


Also in the mail:

I'm not a headphone guy, really. I've heard the Shure SRH440, SRH840, and Sennheiser HD600. None of these were for me. I felt the treble was peaky on all of them to the point where I just can't enjoy music. The Moondrop Singer are different. They don't play in the same league as the HD600 regarding size of stage and airiness of course. But they more than make up for it by tonality. This is one of the cases where I was meh in the beginning, but just let them sit on my head while working. And the more songs I listened to, the more awed I was. Such a clean execution, no peaks, no graininess, no overzealous piercing upper treble. The bass is something else, too. It doesn't give you special effects like the TSMR X, but hits damn hard and accurate to the point where I can feel the rumble. I think the initial boredom and subsequent fascination speak for a quite neutral tuning. One that is clearly bass boosted. If someone is looking for TWS closed backs in the 70ish $ price range, that don't have any special tonality boost, this is not a bad pick at all. For me, it is the best over ear headphone I have heard. But again, they usually don't suit me (my set of HD600 had a 10kHz peak I just couldn't cope with).
Build quality is good, the gold parts appear to be metal hinges, but only time will tell. The pads are very comfortable for my medium sized ears. Everything feels pretty high quality for the price. Oh and it can handle LDAC.
There are a couple of downsides, though:
- ANC isn't as good as on their IEM TWS. I hear pops when sitting in a vehicle that hits potholes or when someone slams a door. Also voices almost sound like they are fed through!?
- The mobile iOS app does not yet identify these correctly. I am in discussion with Moondrop about it, but they didn't give me a time frame for the update yet.
- By default, they are set on "High Gain". This would be customizable in the app, which per above I can't use. Used a colleagues Android phone to set them to low gain. On high, the lower volume increments are so far apart that lowest is way too quiet and second lowest is way too loud. Also prompts scale with gain and are way over board in high gain mode.


And sorry, couldn't partake more, but I'm eagerly following everything here. Just to get a few brief responses out there for things I have read over the time: @Leonarfd condolences to you! Really sorry about what happened with your dog. @SpaceOperaVillain thanks for many educating and entertaining posts in the recent past, really dig those! @FreeWheelinAudioLuv2 great you're getting (back) to being a reviewer! Looking forward to a lot more impressions from you! @Ozboyblu hope you enjoy the Armor as much as I do! :)
 

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