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Jun 7, 2021 at 1:17 AM Post #56,926 of 58,565

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I might have just listened to potential endgame...

While quite old at ~2 years since its release, this is the first Sennheiser product I've ever listened to (review unit). I think these go on sale for less than 200 USD already what with being replaced by the IE300? Not that sure and I tried to find said deal but no luck.

Only obvious cons I can find are the use of proprietary connectors and the "cheap" feeling cable. I've contacted a local modder already and they'll be able to make an MMCX-to-IE Pro adapter for 16 USD.

And my god are these comfortable!

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Jun 7, 2021 at 7:56 AM Post #56,927 of 58,565

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Thank you. I do have the less can be more ideology while it comes to driver count. However, often I get pleasantly surprised by many driver counts also, like T800, VE 6X-C, EVE20, etc. So I think ultimately it boils down to the tuning capability. However, I still steer clear away from KZ, TRN, etc who just seem to never shy away from jamming a lot BA drivers. Also, I do not go sub-$50 as the SQ never satisfies me there. I bought a BL-03, sold it 5 days later, and I was done.

The bass driver of A3H+ is quite bold, mind you. It's got a voluminous bass, frontal and attacking, midbass has slightly more emphasis than subbass. But surprisingly, the stage is clean and airy despite that. That's what made me go WOW! It's my fun iem.

While I was using T800, I was using its stock tip, and Final Audio E-Type. I know wide bore tips like W01 or sednaearfit or new bee silicone might have attenuated the bass a bit, however, I never really felt the need to attenuate the bass, hence did not change into wide bore. The soundstage was open enough.

BTW, what is this nozzle-tube resonance? Never heard this. Can you elaborate a bit?
Wise ideology mate, you know that steroids aren't permitted in fair competition, I feel sometimes the overuse of drivers' numbers is to compensate for a lack of tuning talent. Especially for KZ, TRN, CCA chifi companies. I do find BL03 very competent even if i rarely listen to them.

Oh, ok, A3H+ is a fun IEM....wonder if its better than the overpriced Campfire Polaris which is a fun V shape signature with thunderous bass impact, nice for electronic, make you go wow....but sometime yuck too because of upper mids and treble being agressive and bit shouty.

lol, im french so sometimes I struggle to explain more intricate acoustic phenomenon, but you know DD and BA don't propagate sound waves the same way, DD acting more like human vocal cord while BA being more like bird syrinx I guess. So, BA bass and overall sound tend to open more with wide bore ear tips because the tips nozzle doesn't compress all these BA shooting sound at same time. Im not sure to understand fully why, but for multi-BA you will never add bass with big long ear tips like you can do for DD. About T800, another ''mod'' i really need to do is changing the Knowles damping filters...it cna be bought on ALI for very cheap. It can be usefull for those that find upper mids to fowards.
 
Jun 7, 2021 at 9:44 AM Post #56,928 of 58,565

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Wise ideology mate, you know that steroids aren't permitted in fair competition, I feel sometimes the overuse of drivers' numbers is to compensate for a lack of tuning talent. Especially for KZ, TRN, CCA chifi companies. I do find BL03 very competent even if i rarely listen to them.

Oh, ok, A3H+ is a fun IEM....wonder if its better than the overpriced Campfire Polaris which is a fun V shape signature with thunderous bass impact, nice for electronic, make you go wow....but sometime yuck too because of upper mids and treble being agressive and bit shouty.

lol, im french so sometimes I struggle to explain more intricate acoustic phenomenon, but you know DD and BA don't propagate sound waves the same way, DD acting more like human vocal cord while BA being more like bird syrinx I guess. So, BA bass and overall sound tend to open more with wide bore ear tips because the tips nozzle doesn't compress all these BA shooting sound at same time. Im not sure to understand fully why, but for multi-BA you will never add bass with big long ear tips like you can do for DD. About T800, another ''mod'' i really need to do is changing the Knowles damping filters...it cna be bought on ALI for very cheap. It can be usefull for those that find upper mids to fowards.
Even though A3H+ is an outstanding iem, over time I have found out that the price differences do hold true, and there truly is no giant killer. Polaris is almost 2.5 times the A3H+. I have not heard the Polaris, but I am almost sure that the details and separation will be slightly improved on Polaris. But yeah, tonality-wise A3H+ might be more pleasing, as even though the notes do have a hint of sharpness, but they are not for sure piercing.
 
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Even though A3H+ is an outstanding iem, over time I have found out that the price differences do hold true, and there truly is no giant killer. Polaris is almost 2.5 times the A3H+. I have not heard the Polaris, but I am almost sure that the details and separation will be slightly improved on Polaris. But yeah, tonality-wise A3H+ might be more pleasing, as even though the notes do have a hint of sharpness, but they are not for sure piercing.
DO you know if their any A3H+ graph available anywhere? Or it seem their numerous version of this model, custom is PRO, older version is A3H...

The Polaris was fatiguing to my ears and im far from being treble sensitive. They are kinda bad IEM in fact, treble isnt very controlled and too fowards. But V2 might be better...anyway, Campfire isnt a brand im really curious about even if i do have heard the Andromeda 2020 edition...which is a slightly improved FIIO FH9 from what i remember.
 
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DO you know if their any A3H+ graph available anywhere? Or it seem their numerous version of this model, custom is PRO, older version is A3H...

The Polaris was fatiguing to my ears and im far from being treble sensitive. They are kinda bad IEM in fact, treble isnt very controlled and too fowards. But V2 might be better...anyway, Campfire isnt a brand im really curious about even if i do have heard the Andromeda 2020 edition...which is a slightly improved FIIO FH9 from what i remember.


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This is the only one I could find. Mild V-shape. A3H+ is neutral-bright+bass boost, but it isn't fatiguing by a long margin. Don't be afraid by the 8 Khz peak, it definitely isn't as bad as it looks.
 
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Some new cables I got.





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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001872907457.html

Cable A24, looks and feels like cable A6 but is almost half the price. Unfortunately it does not measure as good being at 0.27 ohms but still recommended due to the low price and high build quality.



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Sure looks similar right? A24 is only a bit more silverish, while A6 is whiter. (A6 on top and A24 on bottom.)



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Well, do I have to say something? I am sure that the pictures already made you take out your wallet. :joy:
But to help you with that, this costed me 20 usd and it measures at 0.13ohms. So yes, it looks like cable A1 has been beaten.
This is Cable A25, a custom cable with 2 gold/copper wires + 1 sterling silver (pure silver) so its a 6 core cable.




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Another version of cable A25, but with 1 gold/copper wire + 2 sterling silver wires. Unfortunately this measures quite a lot worse than the other version. Being at 0.37ohms instead. Which means this isnt a A series, instead it joins the B series as cable B8


Neither the A25 or the B8 have been listed for sale. But I will tell him that he should list cable A25, its an epic cable for sure.
(if anyone wants to buy it, you need to ask him for it and he will make you one. Since he doesnt have a proper listing for it yet.)
 
Jun 7, 2021 at 10:48 AM Post #56,934 of 58,565

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How do Tin Hifi fix the P2? hmmm, maybe it wasnt expensive enough?


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This is madness.

Their original Tin P2 was launched around $300ish USD and flopped. So they double the price for the retuned version (that released just weeks after the original P2)!?

Not to mention the Tin T5 that was recently released also had equivocal reviews. And now they are coming up with a retune of that too haha.
 
Jun 7, 2021 at 11:31 AM Post #56,937 of 58,565

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What do you think of the MT1? Kinda disappointed with mine. Sounds harsh, peaky and fatiguing. Could be I've gotten a lemon, not sure. Also, seems like there are a few variations of it being sold.
It is not harsh at all IMO kind of smooth in fact. It is quite scooped and pretty good for something like Katy Perry which I don't really listen to. Not for instrumental music thou.
 
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This is the only one I could find. Mild V-shape. A3H+ is neutral-bright+bass boost, but it isn't fatiguing by a long margin. Don't be afraid by the 8 Khz peak, it definitely isn't as bad as it looks.

Oh doesnt seem bad even if the peak in the treble is scary a bit....

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And there some tonal similarities with the Jasper i devore lately lol...apart Jasper treble seem more smooth-airy-extended-sparkly, which it is in the first place.
Man, im more and more curious about these AWW A3H+ now...kinda irrational obsession. Or audiophile poison.

About cheapies, you should give a try to HZsound Mirror (perhaps i already say it...I repeat this suggestion so often)
 
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Oh doesnt seem bad even if the peak in the treble is scary a bit....

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And there some tonal similarities with the Jasper i devore lately lol...apart Jasper treble seem more smooth-airy-extended-sparkly, which it is in the first place.
Man, im more and more curious about these AWW A3H+ now...kinda irrational obsession. Or audiophile poison.

About cheapies, you should give a try to HZsound Mirror (perhaps i already say it...I repeat this suggestion so often)
Why not bite the bullet and get one? It won't be a bad buy. Perfect for an on the go beater iem.

HZsound Mirror, I did hear about its fame...I have a Penon Fan, and getting a Moondrop Aria (2020) in a while. May be I'll try the Mirror, one guy has it here.
 

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