[Argo Duck]

Yggy = $2299. Jason (co-owner and amp engineer at Schiit) seems to think this price is firm.

 

[ToTje]

Yggy = $2299. Jason (co-owner and amp engineer at Schiit) seems to think this price is firm.

Any information about the price in Europe?

 

[zach915m]

The non flagship vintage Theta;s can be had at a great price already.  I have a Progeny that I got for in the 300's (USD) and a Pro Basic that I paid $500 for.  They are both fantastic and I really don't miss not being able to play super high res 192 files because they just sound so incredible.  They are perfect side-kicks to the Taboo III.  Ofcourse they do no have exactly the same chip and implementation as the Gen V - but they are fantastic.  If you really just want to get a taste of the R2R sound the Starting Point NOS 1543 Dac is a great place to start for under $250 bills and if in Europe it ships from France so that could be a good route as well.  Also a good match with the Taboo!
 
R2R is the way to go IMHO, as I am also very excited about the Yggy.  I spoke with Steve Deckert about Dac's and he said NOS he believes the is the way to get the most analogue sound.  If/when I get a Yggy it'll be interesting to bring it over to Steve's place and get his thoughts on it.  Although he doesn't have much need for one with his fantastic reel to reel and record collection.

 

[ToTje]

  The non flagship vintage Theta;s can be had at a great price already.  I have a Progeny that I got for in the 300's (USD) and a Pro Basic that I paid $500 for.  They are both fantastic and I really don't miss not being able to play super high res 192 files because they just sound so incredible.  They are perfect side-kicks to the Taboo III.  Ofcourse they do no have exactly the same chip and implementation as the Gen V - but they are fantastic.  If you really just want to get a taste of the R2R sound the Starting Point NOS 1543 Dac is a great place to start for under $250 bills and if in Europe it ships from France so that could be a good route as well.  Also a good match with the Taboo!
 
R2R is the way to go IMHO, as I am also very excited about the Yggy.  I spoke with Steve Deckert about Dac's and he said NOS he believes the is the way to get the most analogue sound.  If/when I get a Yggy it'll be interesting to bring it over to Steve's place and get his thoughts on it.  Although he doesn't have much need for one with his fantastic reel to reel and record collection.

Thanks for the tip!
It is a bit difficult to find much info on vintage Theta hardware though; Pro Prime, Progeny, Pro basic II and tons of others.
Many choices, very little info on most of them though.

 

[zach915m]

  Thanks for the tip!
It is a bit difficult to find much info on vintage Theta hardware though; Pro Prime, Progeny, Pro basic II and tons of others.
Many choices, very little info on most of them though.

True Fact.  The most hard info can probably be found here:  http://www.thetadigital.com/legacy_products.shtml
 
Other than that there's just sprinklings of stuff on forums.

 

[Argo Duck]

Sorry I don't know

You might get an indication by looking up the Europe price of the Ragnarok. US price is $1699.

Any information about the price in Europe?

 

[ToTje]

Sorry I don't know

You might get an indication by looking up the Europe price of the Ragnarok. US price is $1699.

 
Haha I actually already did! 

 Not only with the Ragnarok, but with multiple dacs and amps.
It is safe to say that the $ gets replaced with a € in most of the cases, so I expect the same with the Yggdrasil, but I'm not sure if this also goes up for NEW releases. Perhaps at the very first beginning there could be a price difference?
 
Ah well, right after I posted that, I heard about a financial setback that I have, so if I want to buy one, I would have to wait a while anyway.

 

[jhljhl]

After getting the ok from Deckert, I tried a 6sn7 adapter. I think it increases a touch the imaging and soundstage- that is less warm than the 6n1p.  I think it is worth the purchase - recommended - however the adapter I got off ebay would not fit without using a socket saver so watch for that.

 

[ToTje]

Argh, I have to sell mine again! 

 Unforseen financial problems!
That, plus I notice I'm really getting tinnitus. I listen to the LCD-X for many hours in a row every single day, and the volume apparently often is slightly more than it should be. (At least; I don't have that impresion, but the ringing in my ears tells me otherwise.)
 
 
This really frustrates me! I absolutely love the sound so much, but for financial and health reasons I do think I have to sell it.

 

[funch]

I just started using this tube in the input position: http://www.upscaleaudio.com/telefunken-e88cc-6922/
 
It's down the list on rb2013's list a bit, but it sounds fabulous in the CSP. A bit pricey, but, with this tube, I'm done rolling; an end game tube.

 

[Argo Duck]

Very useful review - I hadn't seen it previously.

It's a pity rb didn't have a second tube amp on hand to compare and contrast - I never found the Lyr and CSP2+ to sound similar - but that's being picky!

I've got the Tele's close cousin, a 60s Siemens E88CC in mine and yes, fabulous with Beyer T1 and LCD-3F.

 

[funch]

I also use my Taboo with LCD3-F's. It is driven by my CSP2+ in a pre/power amp configuration. Since my Taboo is a series II, my input tube is a 12AU7.
I'm using this tube http://www.upscaleaudio.com/mullard-cv4003-12au7-vintage-new-old-stock/ Also a very nice, albeit pricey tube.

 

[Argo Duck]

^ Interesting. I use my Taboo II with my LCD2 rev 1 (no pre but the BMC PureDAC delivers probably about 3Vrms) and a humble 1960s Brimar CV4033 from Tubemonger. It is insanely good: extended highs, extraordinary bass impact and the usual nice mids. However, I begin to think my 2r1 is an atypical copy - I find it hard to describe as 'dark'.

The 3F I find much better with the CSP2+ than the Taboo. Of course, it may be the Brimar - so good with the 2r1 - is just not right for the 3F.

I recently acquired an HD 800. Amazing as well with the CSP2+/Siemens E88CC but possibly not ideal. OTOH, though I love the 800, I may just be noticing its slightly colder, more analytical sound compared to the 3F. Or, I need to find a 'better' driver tube for it...

We are in the wrong thread for these notes but perhaps it will bring out some Taboo III owners. At least the E88CCs are on topic

 

[funch]

TBH I don't find that the CSP has enough to drive the 3F's properly. I don't even use the TRS jack on the Taboo for the 3F's. Rather, I built an adapter box that runs from the speaker taps to a 
4 pin XLR and have my 3F's wired balanced. Much better sound IMHO. You can see the box on page 122 of this thread.

 

[jhljhl]

I find the CSP2+ and Taboo III sounds very good with hd800. Gives more weight to the airiness of hd800 though taboo iii alone is good too but a little bass light.  I like the combo with LCD3f better than taboo III alone- there is more bass slam and more warmth/body to treble while still airy.