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The decline of rock n roll rebellion

  1. Spareribs
    Back in the old days, rock n roll was only for the youth and it was considered edgy and considered to be a form of rebellion. These days, it is socially accepted in the mainstream western world and even old people now listen to rock music. Wearing a Beatles or Rolling Stones or Nirvana T shirt is not much different than wearing a Coca-Cola shirt since it has become recognizable brand names and you can't shock people anymore by blasting the music of Elvis.
  2. ProtegeManiac Contributor
    For a start, the people who grew up in that era are old now - hey're either part of the establishment or they're not going to around claiming KISS means "Knights in the Service of name I can't discuss on Head-Fi" unlike that grandmother in that movie. If anything, what we might have is a counter-revolutionary kneejerk movement, since not all of this is due to informed tolerance but instead is due to ignorance. As more and more people just wear rock shirts thinking they're just cool logos, people who actually know the music are getting irked by Kendall Jenner wearing them.
    At the same time rebellion in being a hedonistic thug hasn't been the point of rock music in a long time thanks to Rage Against the Machine. Instead of a boozed, coked-out of his brain rock star rebelling against sheer prudishness as punk and metal did, now the perceived enemies are ignorance and apathy.  You don't even need to be a socialist-motivated band to share that - some metal songs are about similar things. Like Nightwish's 10th Man Down and the monologue at the end of Song of Myself. There's also Mark Jansen, no doubt growing up around the growing danger of illiberal values being tolerated under liberalism in Europe (such as the tournantes in Paris) with a series of songs, right up Epica's first album that covered a lot of what led to and the War on Terror (later albums included critiques of how this was also doen not for liberal values but for another faction of the same types of zealots).  Heck, even during the time when rockers were coked up there was still the residue of the 1970s civil rights consciousness, but now about a wider set of issues, which is why even before those tracks we War PigsOne, and Civil War. It wasn't all just teens listening to Bob Dylan engaging in underage whiskey and tobacco consumption, or Motley Crue grlorifying strip clubs and orgies. Speaking of which, the AIDS epidemic probably had a hand in curbing rock hedonism as people moved away from what you can get AIDS from, like heroin and orgies, to singing about AIDS to raise awareness like they were working with the CDC and such. Specific songs about AIDS weren't even needed, it can be Brian May going up on stage dedicating a song to the most famous AIDS casualty of the rock world: his friend Freddie Mercury.
  3. Music Alchemist
    Even extreme metal has become mainstream now.
    I'm working on my own new genre that transcends anything that would ever be popular.
  4. WraithApe
    Of course you are. [​IMG]
  5. wuwhere Contributor
    Back then there were civil rights issues, Vietnam war protests (Kent State shooting), politics (DNC in Chicago, Watergate), sexual revolution, Woodstock, and drugs. Examples, music by Marvin Gaye (What's Going On), Curtis Mayfield (Freddie's Dead), Crosby, Stills & Nash (Chicago), Neil Young (Alabama, Southern Man), John Lennon (Imagine, Mind Games), Aretha Franklin (Respect), Lynyrd Skynyrd (Sweet Home Alabama), & many others.
  6. BobG55
    .... so then what do we make of this guy ?  Like where did he fit in ?

    Tiny Tim
  7. Spareribs
    I agree. Even heavy metal is now family friendly.

    After music videos became mainstream and exploded in popularity, rock n roll lost its edgy under ground image.
  8. wuwhere Contributor
    Rock and metal music to test someone's setup for imaging, soundstage, depth, resolution, separation.
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  10. Music Alchemist
    I was referring to extreme metal specifically. (Death metal, black metal, thrash metal, etc.) The original heavy metal became popular in the 1960s and 1970s and is nothing new. But now, even extreme metal albums can sometimes be so popular that they dominate the Billboard charts.
    I use tons of metal tracks when testing equipment, though I mix in all the other genres I can as well.
  11. wuwhere Contributor
    Same here, I mostly listen to classic rock so I use rock music to check out audio gears not well recorded music that I may only listen once or twice.
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