[jjmai]

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So for iphone or android phones I don't need this unless I get a real DAC or a good home system? For a phone, better to get the 8323?
 

 
The M50's straight cable is pretty long, so probably not very good for portable use, considering you are using them on smart phone.  I don't know how you like the M50 coiled cable version though.
I read that the Beyer felt/velour pad is compatible with both 8323 and M50.  Probably doesn't hurt much to try 8323 for less than $30 first.

 

[devhen]

Not much but might come in handy if you're planning on buying something from J&R:
 
$5 off $75 w/ coupon code JRSUMMER

 

[MorbidToaster]

You won't need an upgrade until you're wanting to spend about...3 to 4 times that price.
 
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Razordogdeals.com and use razordog50 promo code
 
OK Screw it. Just bought my first pair of hi-fi headphones. Sennheiser HD 598 

 

[steelgtr]

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You won't need an upgrade until you're wanting to spend about...3 to 4 times that price.
 

 
So, how much better are the 598's over the 558's for ipod w/ amp mp3 listening?
 
bob

 

[MorbidToaster]

I've never compared them. I will say that the 598s don't really need an amp though. IMO of course. 
 
The 598 is one of the most impressive values in this hobby, in my opinion.
 
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So, how much better are the 598's over the 558's for ipod w/ amp mp3 listening?
 
bob

 

[aleki]

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So, how much better are the 598's over the 558's for ipod w/ amp mp3 listening?
 
bob

They use the same drivers; the damping materials and housing influence the sound. See here

 

[steelgtr]

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I've never compared them. I will say that the 598s don't really need an amp though. IMO of course. 
 
The 598 is one of the most impressive values in this hobby, in my opinion.
 

It looks like the easily modded 558-598 makes the 558  an even more impressive value then!  (Thanks  aleki!! )

 

[steelgtr]

Dakmart.com has the 558's for $99, not refurb or b stock!  Lots of bad reviews on them tho??

 

[devhen]

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Dakmart.com has the 558's for $99, not refurb or b stock!  Lots of bad reviews on them tho??

 
They're refurbished. Dakmart is an authorized dealer and as such can't advertise non-refurbished Sennheisers for less than MSRP. Looks like they've just forgotten to mention that they are refurbished/b-stock.
 
Still a good deal though and they are probably like-new.
 
So no one can vouch for these Sennheiser refurbs on Dakmart? Surely there are some people here that have bought them before...

 

[Magick Man]

They're refurbished. Dakmart is an authorized dealer and as such can't advertise non-refurbished Sennheisers for less than MSRP. Looks like they've just forgotten to mention that they are refurbished/b-stock.

Still a good deal though and they are probably like-new.

So no one can vouch for these Sennheiser refurbs on Dakmart? Surely there are some people here that have bought them before...

That's where I bought my 598s and they were in perfect condition.

 

[steelgtr]

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That's where I bought my 598s and they were in perfect condition.

New or refurb?

 

[Magick Man]

New or refurb?

Supposedly "Like New - Open Box" but the box had never been opened.

 

[lilkoolaidman]

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The 598 is one of the most impressive values in this hobby, in my opinion.
 

I would have to disagree. HD580 = HD600 for $100 USD. Now that's a sweet deal

 
Also, MEElectronics CC51P for $25 at Newegg.

 

[devhen]

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I would have to disagree. HD580 = HD600 for $100 USD. Now that's a sweet deal

 
I think he meant currently. The 580 is out of production.

 

[devhen]

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Supposedly "Like New - Open Box" but the box had never been opened.

 
Awesome. Thanks for the comments. I assumed as much but I didn't want to make any purchases from Dakmart until I heard from some fellow head-fi'ers. I'll probably be buying a pair of refurbished Senns from them for a friend. Now I just need to decide which ones to get...