[Gamerlingual]

I've an SR25, it's cleaner more analytical/transparent than the WM1A. Power output is far greater in a much smaller form factor that streams without Google's interference. The M2 Sony DAP's are such a disappointment. I like the Sony sound signature, equally I'm not willing to pay such a price for so little advancement in such a bloated package...

Q-6

I get the exact same Android experience with my A105

 

[Queen6]

I get the exact same Android experience with my A105

Exactly the magic has gone. Sony should have developed it's own OS, incorporated streaming reduced the size and doubled the power output. Sadly Sony got lazy, sold out to Google's $$$ and brought a bloated, underpowered, overpriced DAP to the market.

I personally expected better, but money and all, just talk no show, sad indeed...

Q-6

 

[Gamerlingual]

Exactly the magic has gone. Sony should have developed it's own OS, incorporated streaming reduced the size and doubled the power output. Sadly Sony got lazy, sold out to Google's $$$ and brought a bloated, underpowered, overpriced DAP to the market.

I personally expected better, but money and all, just talk no show, sad indeed...

Q-6

I sense disdain towards the new DAPs. They’re not for me. But I don’t think they’re terrible

 

[gLer]

I sense disdain towards the new DAPs. They’re not for me. But I don’t think they’re terrible

I think a lot of it comes from those that have never actually held or heard one of the new players, or are bitter because they can't afford them. I'm yet to read a single impression from someone who has actually paid money for one of the new players, compared it to the original, and then sold or returned it for being 'inferior'.

 

[Gamerlingual]

I think a lot of it comes from those that have never actually held or heard one of the new players, or are bitter because they can't afford them. I'm yet to read a single impression from someone who has actually paid money for one of the new players, compared it to the original, and then sold or returned it for being 'inferior'.

I can afford it and listened to it for over an hour. I just felt it’s not worth the asking price. It’s good for what it is. But for maybe $1,000 tops

 

[AudioAndCoffee]

I think a lot of it comes from those that have never actually held or heard one of the new players, or are bitter because they can't afford them. I'm yet to read a single impression from someone who has actually paid money for one of the new players, compared it to the original, and then sold or returned it for being 'inferior'.

Every product is not perfect, pro and con for each person.

If not suitable for u, JUST MOVE ON. Dun waste the forum thread complaining.

 

[xjaynine]

Funny story. I actually came from the opposite direction. When the M1s were announced in 2016, I was super disappointed about Sony dropping android since I was already very used to having non-DAP specific features on the ZX1. What's interesting back in 2011-13, having android functionality was uncommon feature not found on competing brands.

I also thought the M1s were chonky and too bulky compared to the sleeker and lighter ZX Walkmans. So didn't commit to buying a M1 at launch.

Fast forward a few years later, and after reading a ton of impressions (positive and negative) of the M1s. I decided to take the plunge, and never looked back. The improvement with the sound and of course a tight user experience definitely made up the loss of some conveniences.

Coming back to the present, I think in a way the M2s returning to android is Sony coming full circle with the legacy of the Z/ZX devices.

I wonder if this is going to play out as a cyclical thing?

M1, M3 = Walkman OS
M2, M4 = Android

 

[Gamerlingual]

Every product is not perfect, pro and con for each person.

If not suitable for u, JUST MOVE ON. Dun waste the forum thread complaining.

Yea, maybe a couple of times it’s fine.

The one thing I will say, despite it being heavier, the weight is more evenly distributed. So there’s that

 

[ops V]

In my opinion, the CEntrance Ampersand amplifier is an interesting option for the Sony NW-WM1A/Z. It has four outputs - 2.3 watts (13 ohms), 3 watts (16 ohms), 4.4 watts (22 ohms), 6 watts (48 ohms). Wondering about buying one. Here are pictures from the Internet.

 

[Queen6]

I sense disdain towards the new DAPs. They’re not for me. But I don’t think they’re terrible

Kind of the same, but they are not worth the asking price in 2022.

Q-6

 

[Queen6]

I can afford it and listened to it for over an hour. I just felt it’s not worth the asking price. It’s good for what it is. But for maybe $1,000 tops

Same here, nothing special, nor notably worse just different, M2 1A is closer to the 1Z sound and wider that's about it. Pricing wise laughable as there's a lot more competition on the market today versus 2016 and even then the WM1A/Z was considered to be underpowered...

Q-6

 

[Gamerlingual]

I’m happy for the others in that thread that enjoy it. Different case scenarios. I guess my choice of wording is just more gentle. Then again, that’s only how I feel

 

[The1Signature]

If not suitable for u, JUST MOVE ON. Dun waste the forum thread complaining.

finally, someone said it. thank you.

 

[LanceSaintPaul]

We're a niche of a niche here. Sony didn't get lazy they calculated that the larger part of their niche wants streaming aps. So a marketing decision was made. Likely correct for them overall. Not for me, but OK. The new generation, if I have this right, up-samples to DSD. which for some will yield a better sound quality. I have an older disc player of theirs that did that & I liked it just fine.

 

[buzzlulu]

Just quickly chiming in with a comment. I do not know if we are a niche market for Sony. I exclusively stream with my 1Z. I connect my iPhone to it and I’m able to enjoy the responsiveness and functionality of Qobuz etc. viatheir iOS apps.
Much better responsiveness when compared to the new M2 versions. Slightly inconvenient because two devices are tethered together - however it does not bother me