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THE best female vocals? (your favorite female singers)
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Just to set the record straight... Ariana is not a Latina... unless your definition of Latina/Latino extends to southern Europeans. She is of Italian descent. And AFAIK, has never claimed to be anything else.
It was news to me as well. I frankly never gave her ethnicity much thought, until you mentioned it. But probably also (falsely) assumed she was at least partly of Spanish or Latin American descent, because of her "Spanish-sounding" last name, and nice brown eyes. But that was obviously not correct. "Grande" translates the same in several languages, including Spanish, Italian, and Portuguese. And that is her real (Italian) surname, and not a stage name. (Something else I didn't know.)
Whether she's Black/African-American (as some also seem to think), Latina, or italiana makes no difference to me though. I'd like her music even if she was of Martian or Venusian descent.*
(*She's also a space nut btw, which is another reason I like her.)
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FullBright1
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So, you went to wiki and discovered all these facts.
Impressive.
What took you so long?
Also, its unfortunate that she is not really able to compose her songs...
This is one of the nice and impressive things about Taylor Swift.
Taylor is not just a singer.
Ariana is an impressive singer.
I dont like any of her music beyond her 2nd album as the industry has decided she needs to play in the world of Hip-Hop, which i hate.
This however, is one of my fav songs she sings...
AND, just for you......because you are so deserving, i'll post some Taylor Swift....also.
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Yes. I consulted Wikipedia, among other things.
Wasn't aware there was a time limit.
I believe both use teams of music writers and producers. And both are also involved to some extent in the creation process. Taylor is more known for her writing though. So I'll give you that.
True. I enjoy Taylor's singing as well.
Nice tunes. Thank you for both the above.
FullBright1
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Yes. I consulted Wikipedia, among other things.
Wasn't aware there was a time limit.
I believe both use teams of music writers and producers. And both are also involved to some extent in the creation process. Taylor is more known for her writing though. So I'll give you that.
True. I enjoy Taylor's singing as well.
Nice tunes. Thank you for both the above.
This is who creates and produces Ariana's recent songs. = Tommy Brown, Justin Tranter, and Njomza.
And then there is this....According to her SONGWRITING CREDITS, Taylor Swift has written or co-written every original song she has released..
Ariana has a better vocal range, and Taylor has a better overall talent.
Both girls are very good "live".
Both girls, in the last 4 yrs, have descended into soft soft porn videos to sell their music.
Unfortunate.
Taylor's last excellent pop song was "Style".
She actually copied Depeche Mode's "Precious" to create the song.
Taylor's first worldwide smash hit is a song that actually rearranged Def Leppard's "Histeria" into a country song complete with new lyrics and a very slight change to the melody.
This song is : Love Story
Neither singer can match Katy Perry regarding vocal tonality or live performance, in my opinion.
Ive yet to hear ither Ariana (whom the entire world thinks is a Mexican) or Taylor S. issue a vocal performance on disc, file, or vinyl that can match the passion or perfection regarding what Katy delivered in the song "Firework".
All 3 girls are a slave to vocal processing (intonation) software... Auto Tune (and similar).
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Taylor is 29, and Ariana is 25, which qualifies them both as "women" in my book, rather than girls. And from what I've seen, they're both pretty good live. I'd probably give the edge to Ariana in terms of general vocal performance, improvisation, and intonation. Taylor is a very strong performer in other ways though. So it's probably a wash. I've never seen either one live in person though. Only recordings of their performances.
As far as the soft porn thing goes, I'm ok with it, if they are. I enjoy both their sizzly, and not so sizzly videos. I'll try to keep your sensitivities about it in mind though.
Interesting.
Katy Perry does have a very strong voice. She is another of my favorites as well.
I have no knowledge of this one way or another, except that it's become a common practice in the music industry. From what I've seen though, Ariana's intonation is pretty much spot on. So I'm not sure why she'd need to use Autotune, except as an effect, or to tweak a performance a bit more to her personal taste after the fact. Taylor seems a little more pitchy in live performances. But I suspect that both she and Katy P could also nail a performance in the studio sans Autotune, without too much difficulty. I would not be surprised though if, as you say, all three women (Perry is 34) have used it.
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FullBright1
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You feel that a "woman" this definition, is based on age.
I'd have to suggest to you that lifestyle practice, a sense of personal responsibility, and wisdom, would rate a female as a woman, not age.
There are a lot of 40 yr olds, both male and female, that are not adults, they are just 40.
Also, it would be impossible for you to know for certain if ariana is a better live vocalist then taylor, as you say you have not seen ither "live".
So, this means you have only seen them in videos, or at best, doing something like a song at an awards show.
In both cases, its fake.
And yes, the industry , the music industry, the pop music industry, is infected with the habitual use of auto-tune.
10 Yrs ago, it was used to help correct "pitchy" singers, but now its become an effect that is applied to vocals like "chorus" or " delay" or "reverb".
Most female artists, the most popular, like Katy, or Beyonce, or Alisha Keys, will sing through it during live performance.
Let me tell you how you separate the real singers from the pretty faces.......its like this. Whenever there is an unfortunate devastating situation that harms many people.....like an earthquake, and the music industry creates a show to raise money.......and they need singers to perform live.....you'll note that all these girls are nowhere to be found, and this is because, this is raw, live, and cant be cheated, and they can't do it.
This is why you'll see Paul McCartney, or Elton, or Billy Joel, or someone like Barry Manilow, or a country artist.....as they can actually take a mic and a piano, and do it.
But these girl?....They have to have a slew of sound men and vocal processing to hide behind.
Unfortunate, but that is how the music industry works, since illegal downloading destroyed the music industry.
They no longer want talent, they just want someone that can fake it, and do the dirty videos.
Now, Katy, Ariana, and Taylor are talented...sure.
But you can sit in front of MTV for 2 days and not see anyone who can actually sing, but they can all bump and grind and do the soft porn stuff and sing thru auto-tune.
However all this is not related to talent, its just the way the music industry now survives and teaches people who to like and listen to, etc.
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blackdragon87
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Regina Spektor made some good albums
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