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Starting Point Systems portable NOS DAC

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by cjg888, Mar 12, 2014.
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  1. gvl2016
    $350 + shipping is very reasonable for what it is, compare to Metrum Musette at $1100 (no longer being made). Unclear how they compare sonically but similar tech.
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2017
  2. jimmers
    Another place of interest (?)


    personally, I have the Starting Point Systems DAC3 which was around $200 from an auction.
  3. CJG888
    Yes, the Soekris also looks like excellent value for money.
  4. CJG888
    Once I've had a chance to put the Audio-gd through its paces properly, I'll post a proper review.
  5. gvl2016
    Looking at sold listings now you can get it below $100, while I feel this price is "right" for what it is, I don't know if it makes the business sustainable for the guy, the DAC-3 is probably $50 in parts alone, plus assembly, overhead, ebay fees, etc.
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2017
  6. Jimster480
    If he makes alot of them the larger quantities of chips become alot cheaper.
    But I wonder if he builds them himself for real.
  7. richard51
    This french dac has more realistic sound, musical timbre of real instrument, than probably any oversampling dac under 500and crush my beloved bushmaster MKII....It is not perfect but what do we like, perception of the digital plankton or the unity of the musical flow and timbre ?
  8. Jimster480
    Which one are you talking about?
  9. Haden2866
    I just received the following email from Christophe:

    This is to let you know I am currently working on the preparation of your DAC. With the increasing success of my DAC recently, I've been quite busy preparing DACs, but I'm now catching up. I should finish the assembly tomorrow, and then will do the measurements and listeningt tests. When all is ok, I should be able to ship it, most likely early next week.
  10. Jimster480
    So obviously he builds them himself.
    He is going to have to get a manufacturer if his product gets big enough.
    Its interesting how HeadFI makes a real impact on the sales of products.
    I saw it with the Topping stuff I reviewed here, nobody knew about it and it had no reviews on any site it was on sale for.
    After writing about it here, it ended up on Massdrop quite soon and now has tons of reviews and lots of people talking about the stack around the net (D30/A30).
  11. gvl2016
    While I can appreciate the smoothness and detail retrieval that oversampling DACs usually provide I prefer the NOS sound listening to it I can just sit back, relax and enjoy the music.NOS critics say it is the frequencies not present in the original material that are present in the NOS sound spectrum due to the lack of filtering that fool your brain, but even if true why should I care as long as my brain is happy?
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  12. Jimster480
    Either way as long as you like it, it doesn't matter.
    I want to try a NOS DAC at some point in time, but right now I am thoroughly enjoying my DX7.
  13. Guidostrunk
    NOS changed my world , when I had a simple Teradak 3.1. Now I have a Scott Nixon NOS tube dac. I do not regret selling my Thetas in the least bit.

    I'm amazed by the realism , that these dacs deliver. Center imaging, and holography, are off the charts!
  14. kukkurovaca
    Hi, folks. I recently picked up a used starting point Dac 3 off of eBay (always a risk, of course) and while I can connect it over usb and get the relevant frequency indicator to light up, no audio is coming out of RCA outputs. Also, it won't recognize optical input.

    The batteries were near-flat upon arrival, and the power supply that the seller included was maybe underpowered, so I gave it a couple days to fully charge and tried a couple different power supplies as well as using a powered USB hub. (And different cables/computers/etc.)

    I just thought I'd ask here before trying to get the seller to take it back and refund it, if this is a familiar failure mode. In particular, I'm wondering if the issue might be with the batteries haven given up the ghost in transit. (Assuming that the seller didn't intentionally ship me a dud.) I know the batteries are replaceable, but I don't especially want to take this thing apart (or buy batteries for it) if it's unlikely to help.
  15. richard51
    french mini Dac TDA 1543 of designer Christophe Mariac
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