I have both flats and 414s and the sound is definitely different. I prefer the flats, but if you want a cheaper solution then 414 pads, reversed bowls, and crushed bowls are good too.
I started with the 80s. I thought they were great. However like with anything you want the next best thing. I am currently enjoying my 225s with mod'd 414 pads right now, and if I find a pair of RS-1s for a good price, they are mine.
It was a nice upgrade to the 225s, but you cannot go wrong with the 80s. I can promise you when you want to upgrade, you can always sell your 80s to somebody on head-fi.
Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict /img/forum/go_quote.gif No, SR-60 come with comfys (like 414) and SR-80 come with bowls.
I think both of those are better for rock than MS-1, but MS-1 rule for jazz and classical.
When my son took my MS-1 for himself on Jan 7 for his birthday, I picked up some SR-80 after a lengthy listen at the music store - listening between SR-60, his MS-1 and the SR-80. I didn't open them, and within a week found some used SR-60 for half the price, and returned the SR-80 unopened. The SR-60 are close enough that I haven't looked back, and you can see I have tons of Grados. The SR-60 are what prompted me to sell my iGrados.
The SR-80 however, do have an extra level of detail and layering, that the SR-60 give up in exchange for more bass. With a good amp, the SR-80 have plenty of bass, but they are harder to drive than the SR-60 I think. The SR-80 sound like a less bassy lower cost version of the RS-1, which means they are brighter than the SR-60 and MS-1 (unless you use bowls on those, then they are too bright too).
Oh ok. I thought he was implying that they were both new but that he was gonna use the 414 pads with them
Originally Posted by donunus /img/forum/go_quote.gif Oh ok. I thought he was implying that they were both new but that he was gonna use the 414 pads with them
Well, I am just saying what they come with new from the store. But now I am not so sure what the OP is doing - will have to go back and read it again. Having a brain fart...
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