[Kirosia]

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Originally Posted by Yikes . . .

Yeah, uh-huh. You can say what you want to pass off what you said. Anyone who read it could take it the same way I did. And insulting me, yeah that shows that you were serious in your little comment. I know it's partly cause those guys bashed you for not liking them (I remember that thread), and now you have some sort of vendetta against the phones/senn fans. You seem to go after them every now and then. Be pissed at the guys who were snobby to you (and I do believe they were), instead of assuming those of us who are offended by your not-so-subtle senn-attacks are "insecure". I didn't want to start a argument nor do I wish to continue one.

 

[geforcewong]

In Counter-Strike, I believe they call this: Pwned.

 

[Kirosia]

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Originally Posted by geforcewong In Counter-Strike, I believe they call this: Pwned.

please, I have no interest in escalating this, nor do I agree with anyone being "pwned".

 

[AdamWill]

I read Yikes' post as tongue-in-cheek and didn't think it was particularly offensive at all. If you're going to take offense at that, you're pretty thin-skinned.

 

[Dr.Sade]

Subconsciously everyone has hidden multiple personalities. In this case one persona likes the GRADO sound. The other persona likes the SENNHEISER sound. The conscious mind reconciles the two personas
by flip-flopping between the two types of headphones.

It's analogous to the way some optical illusions flip-flop when we look
at them.

There will be a pop quiz tomorrow class.

 

[Kirosia]

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Originally Posted by AdamWill I read Yikes' post as tongue-in-cheek and didn't think it was particularly offensive at all. If you're going to take offense at that, you're pretty thin-skinned.

It's more that people tend to do it a lot, many of which are repeat offenders. Whenever anyone tries to defend senns/their fans, said people often call them things such as "thin-skinned'. Yet when someone tries to defend another manufacturer, they (from my view) seem to get less flack. (still plenty though in general) I remember a thread that a newbie started where he flaunted his elitism because he disliked senns. Kinda like being part of the minority, and loving it. When a guy starts a, for ex, rs2 sucks thread, people are there to refute it. Including me.

Do I think that senn fans can be real s-holes? Yes. So can grado fans, sony fans, etc. I have seen it. I've probably said stupid crap in my time here. Although, some people say things can be downright creepy. Don't mean in this thread either.

I find it strange that some will go outta their way repeatedly to insult another product, yet think it odd that there are those who are willing to defend it. That said, I do not wish to argue with anyone. It's not really worth it to fight over headphones. (as we all probably know) Women on the other hand . . .

 

[edmundchoy]

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Originally Posted by Kirosia It's more that people tend to do it a lot, many of which are repeat offenders. Whenever anyone tries to defend senns/their fans, said people often call them things such as "thin-skinned'. Yet when someone tries to defend another manufacturer, they (from my view) seem to get less flack. (still plenty though in general) Do I think that senn fans can be real s-holes? Yes. So can grado fans, sony fans, etc. I have seen it. I find it strange that some will go outta their way repeatedly to insult another product, yet think it odd that there are those who are willing to defend them.

It's post purchase cognitive dissonance. when you buy something, you will try to console yourself that you've made the correct decision. It happens to all of us.
Not suprised to c ppl defending their grados or senns, it's juz human nature at work.

 

[Kirosia]

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Originally Posted by edmundchoy It's post purchase cognitive dissonance. when you buy something, you will try to console yourself that you've made the correct decision.

I thought that was called buyer's remorse?

I've had that with everything: grado, senns, beyers, haha.

 

[James63]

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Originally Posted by xxlMusikfreak When I got my MS1 i prefered it over the HD600 for the first time and listened only to them. But then after a while I changed them and I really liked the Senn. I liked them so much that I bought the HD650. I liked them much more than the MS1 - for a long time. But then I got the HF1. Whoa another step and suddenly everything was better with the HF1. The the story happens again. Just yesterday I started again to listen to the Senn and I like them. Both cans are great and if you will get one of them new you will like it better unless you just don't like the housesound of them. But then after a while you will see that the "old one" also has it's strong points...

This same sort of thing happened to me. When I got my MS-2i I liked them over my long time love 650s. I used nothing but the MS-2i for a few months. But then I took a break from headphones (yes you heard me right....I was mountain biking at the local trail excessively) and when I came back I was not as much into the MS-2i. They sounded bright to the point of discomfort. So here I sit with the 650s on my head and a big dumb grin on my face.

 

[Yikes]

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Originally Posted by Kirosia Yeah, uh-huh. You can say what you want to pass off what you said. Anyone who read it could take it the same way I did. And insulting me, yeah that shows that you were serious in your little comment. I know it's partly cause those guys bashed you for not liking them (I remember that thread), and now you have some sort of vendetta against the phones/senn fans. You seem to go after them every now and then. Be pissed at the guys who were snobby to you (and I do believe they were), instead of assuming those of us who are offended by your not-so-subtle senn-attacks are "insecure". I didn't want to start a argument nor do I wish to continue one.

The original thread starter wrote “these 80's are just so much more precise (my terminology, meaning more detail higher up....Would brighter be the correct definition?)” So my question is if the 80’s have more detail what would that make the 650’s compared to the 80’s. Let’s see that would be….(drumroll please) Less Detailed or Duller. My post was letting the original thread starter know that they are not alone in thinking that of the 650’s.

And yet my posting of my opinion of the 650’s that turned out to be a mild criticism of the 650’s was too harsh for you. It upset you and you had to start with the personal attacks. You say that you didn’t want to start an argument? Is that why you quoted me and then referred to me as “elitist”. I’ve got news for you elitist is every bit as harsh as insecure. I am guilty of returning fire in kind.

Do you really believe that I was insulting the senns? If so then you are going to have a mighty tough life being that thin skinned.

 

[Kirosia]

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Originally Posted by Yikes Do you really believe that I was insulting the senns? If so then you are going to have a mighty tough life being that thin skinned.

Funny, you seem to be throwing the personal insults galore, much more than that I directed to you. (which was actually aimed at those offenders in general) Criticizing my actions on the board is one thing, but insinuating things about the person I am in normal life is outright inappropriate. You know absolutely nothing of me. Course you'll probably call me a wuss for saying this too. I think you're being way more defensive than I am.

I've seen you "show" your dislike for senns not only in this thread, but others. I've done the same thing before, saying something was just a joke even though obviously others can see my true intentions (from prior threads/posts). Course you have every right to; but I'm sure if I continually spoke ill of another phone, someone will come at me. And if you read my post in this thread to the starter, I just said that he probably prefers grado sound. I didn't crap on him or anything, unlike other senn folk may do.

It's quite common for senn-haters to sound quite elitist, as much as those of whom they despise (senn-fanboys). Apparently it's cool to dis senns, that's why there are those who glorify their constant dislike for the phones. (hence why I said the initial comment) I'm not bsing that either, even third parties (non senn-hate/lovers) know what I'm talking about. Why did I reply to you, instead another senn user (doing what I did)? Perhaps they were just too tired of arguing and getting the same flack I am right now. Guess I should've known better, eh?

EDIT: I'm really tired of arguing over something so senseless. (I'm sure you are too) My mee-mpong got cold why I was writing/editing this post up. Nuked it for a minute, but it's just not the same.

 

[RnB180]

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Originally Posted by Kyle No, that's not the wrog way round. I've recently bought some 80's for travelling and giving them a tryout i can't believe how much i prefer them. Being new to head-fi i dont really get all the correct terminology but these 80's are just so much more precise (my terminology, meaning more detail higher up....Would brighter be the correct definition?) At first i missed the bass my 650's gave but after a longer period with the 80's i just forgive the low end as they deliver a sound much more enjoyable to me. So, Is this the Grado sound that i needed all along (in which case HF-1's,225's or 325's?) or is this the lack of a suitable headphone amp (Still researching this one after the apparent balls up on the 650 purchase) I wish i could go back to the days before i found head-fi and just enjoy speakers, life was just simpler then.

consider yourself lucky and sell the 650s and save yourself money. Thats quite comparison you have there, Grados entry can beating senns flagship cans.

the sr-80s were my first cans, I didnt like them much.

 

[Jmmmmm]

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Originally Posted by 1967cutlass Can I sig that? rofl.

Oh of course. You can even make a sign and run around waving it.

This thread is turning into quite a good one, eh.

 

[chesebert]

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Originally Posted by applebook A cheaper BMW with massive, high performance tyres will also "seem" to perform better than a Ferrari with the worst tyres and rims available. The reason is because the one is optimized, and the other is not. Get a good amp for the 650 before making rash judgments.

lol..like that combo exisit in real life..

 

[RnB180]

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Originally Posted by Patu It's just unbelieveable how much potential 650s have. I've always founded something new out of them when I've upgraded my other equipment. Especially now with Rudistor they sound just amazing. But it may also be that you like Grado sound more, who knows.

Yes, there are so many things that effect the overall impact of the senn soundfor the better IMO. Senns have a lot of potential. Nylon mod, recable, woody, closed or open and of course the amplifier. Each one revealing hidden traits the Senns are capable of but handicapped by stock parts. There are much more those drivers can do.