[SONYES]

This is the question I sent to SPL Germany
Related to XLR

Phonitor 2
I have CD players all Japanese with XLR OUT

1. GAN
2. It's cold -
3. It is hot +

In the brochure I saw that

That SLP-2

1. GND
2. It is hot +
3. It's cold -

What should I do about it to get the sound. Right ???
Or is it not so important?

My headphones are the SONY MDR-Z1R are 64 om.
Should I change or immediately hear

And I also saw in the booklet that you can connect to XLR OUT PRE ports

Headphones balanced ????
How can you do this

WE WELL SEE ??

 

[vintageaxeman]

Even ATC used to use the opposite way to the current way that they wired their XLR sockets. So I'm not surprised that other equipment does the same.
It's easy to get right. Just find an electronics engineer who can re-solder the two switched pins on the XLR plugs.
Also, someone else commented earlier in this thread about the Phonitor 2 "too bad they're not balanced." That's incorrect. They are balanced all the way through, but they have a single ended FRONT stereo headphone socket for convenience.. For balanced headphones, you just use the balanced outputs on the rear. It says you can do this, in the manual. You can even buy an added switch unit for the XLR outputs so that the output can be switched one of 4 ways....to different power amps, different balanced headphones etc.

 

[SONYES]

Even ATC used to use the opposite way to the current way that they wired their XLR sockets. So I'm not surprised that other equipment does the same.
It's easy to get right. Just find an electronics engineer who can re-solder the two switched pins on the XLR plugs.
Also, someone else commented earlier in this thread about the Phonitor 2 "too bad they're not balanced." That's incorrect. They are balanced all the way through, but they have a single ended FRONT stereo headphone socket for convenience.. For balanced headphones, you just use the balanced outputs on the rear. It says you can do this, in the manual. You can even buy an added switch unit for the XLR outputs so that the output can be switched one of 4 ways....to different power amps, different balanced headphones etc. I use one of these in my setup...see the photo below.

Thank you very much indeed I saw that
He's really balanced on the back

It is true that you only need an inverter soldering thanks to the advice

And I'm really shocked by the equipment you have.

Is your source CD also?
And headphones also

thank you for the answer

 

[Synthax]

Guys,
One basic thing.:How the Phonitor can be a balanced amplifier, if the volume pot is single ended??

 

[vintageaxeman]

Guys,
One basic thing.:How the Phonitor can be a balanced amplifier, if the volume pot is single ended??

Believe me, it is FULLY balanced.

 

[SONYES]

Believe me, it is FULLY balanced.

I'm getting the amplifier tomorrow
Hope everything is fine with him and will not have a problem with HAM background noise

And I specially ordered a special handmade and UPOCC NEOTECH cable with connections
XLR Females
For the Z1R

a question
What happens with the cable connections between the hot + IN CD is in pin 3
When the HOT + in the amplifier is pin number 2
In XLR connections

Will there be a big change in sound?

Thank you very much

 

[SONYES]

 

[Moochibond]

Hi Sonyes

Congratulations!

Are you enjoying the Phonitor?

How does it compare to your Luxman with the HD 800?

 

[SONYES]

Hi Sonyes

Congratulations!

Are you enjoying the Phonitor?

How does it compare to your Luxman with the HD 800?

Thank you very much Moochibond
One I can say with certainty that'
,
My life has changed from TODAY to end with the new SPL amp.

And this is in several stages
And a little long and maybe a bit confusing
But the combination of P-1U + SPL + Z1R + HD800

That I bought the Z1R was shocked by its sound -
I did not understand the sound
I was really angry at Sony and I'm still angry but really less-just the sharpness of the high field
so
I ordered a UPOCC / NEOTECH cable
Maybe it will make a difference
Anyway
Z1R is simply superior and even on this problem
There are lots and lots of cases
I sucked into music and hear- WOW
So many details that Z1R HAVE .TO my surprise HD800 sounds but is not so obvious
And those who said they have no resolution................on z1r?
I can attest that the Z1R with amazing level of detail
I hear all the details that take place at the bottom of the stage behind the scenes.
3d sound .

And all that was missing!!!!!!!! until he arrived
PHONITOR 2
I'm really happy every minute of the amplifier
And hardly connects the P-1U
Because I hear more details in less volume and the bass is so true and accurate. TO ME IT IS SUPERB.
And not as inflated as the P1U which is so specifically suited for the HD800.
Here
With SPL + Z1R + SA11 and I hope that I will soon get my cable
NEO TECH
A special for me
All the details I'll get with them and show it

There is still a metallic sound in the very high that is reflected in the recordings
Many
But some do not and do not hear it
There is a certain frequency that is probably interfering with 10K
but
That's why I bought the kimber CABEL
Sony's still did not reduce the phenomenon but different and better than the original cable
Next with Z1R
I hooked up the BCL with good results but with the P1U there was more control and tremendous power
In fact today I understand that these amplifiers are suitable for the special HD800.

SPL The result is different with everything you connect to it


I just sold 2 pairs HD800

In the comparisons I made with the same cable +source
Once with HD800 + P-1U the sound to the same disc was good++++
What I've heard for years
but
Still the original cable of the Z1R
In the same breath I connected the ZIR here everything changed to to superb big sound ...full
The only thing that is similar to HD800
The stage width and depth are very similar
The rest
Apples in front of oranges

the z1r is the one to almost all music for me now.

I'm still considering maybe returning the HD800 because with the SPL there's something special about this amplifier
What did not exist in the P1U.
even though it surprised me from the end to which I connected him
ZIR
spl is superb amp .

The treble still in the Z1R is very sharp and really metallic high. in HD800 less
But you still hear him

The domain is amazing with SPL + Z1R
Suddenly I have more . air/mids/bass/3d sound everting more then i was in p1u+hd800 combo

And an amazingly deep, amazingly accurate bass all in place

I'm just sucked into the music
a list of the cd's well be om my next post.
rca/sony/emi/decca/ and more .

I prefer the sound of the SPL + Z1R to be superb .
to
the almost analog TUBE sound
Of the P-1U+z1r
Here I have two types of sound

Each with its own advantages and disadvantages

The P-1U + Z1R is definitely the most enjoyable but it does not have Diynmc Rang and openness
The amazing thing about SPL has .

Now I have no doubt SONY has produced something quite unique to the market
In closed cans.

SPL have so many of its options and drowns it's professional amplifier
Monitors for studios.

The Z1R needs a a very strong open amplifier .with a lot of control over the bass
Highs clear and super-open immediately for mids and full as well
p-1u is good in it but bass is bery big . very good to hd800. for z1e less.
And balanced connection
Will probably be my set for the next decade
spl+z1r

sony es

 

[Moochibond]

@SONYES

I love the sound of my HD 800 out of the P2 but your enthusiastic appraisal of the MDR-Z1R paired with the P2 has made me very curious.

Enjoy!

 

[SONYES]

@SONYES

I love the sound of my HD 800 out of the P2 but your enthusiastic appraisal of the MDR-Z1R paired with the P2 has made me very curious.

Enjoy!

My last HD800 with the best sound signature plat sold along with BCL
A few days before I got the SPL
And I know very well how the HD800
Sounds with particular P-1U + BCL
I had 3 pairs of HD800

you must hear the Z1R with SPL but thr z1r has to have at last more then 200 h in use.

I have not yet talked about the benefits of Matrix

For example, I listened to an entire opera by Puccini Tosca with Sinopoli in DGG
When
CROSFELD 1
ANGEL 30-40
CENTER -1.2

The HD800 is completely different from the sound center out . it comes out of the head but pretty much
Most of the music takes place in the center
Suddenly the instrument in the center sounds bigger than the ones on the sides.

Z1R At first I did not understand why the stereo image is less prominent her ???

I had very serious complaints about SONY on this but .......

But it turns out that the distribution of the instrument is more accurate and accurate in terms of location -and the sound is very full.
And the sound volume and size and depth is more equal between the sides and center

This is true in certain cases, for example. In a piano concert with Yefim Brofman and the Israeli Philharmonic in Prokofiev's concerts A recording of SONY from the early 90's
Sounds much more brilliant in the HD800 but the ratio between the sound center of the piano
Sounds bigger than the rest of the concert -Israeli Philharmonic.

As compared to Z1R all this with BCL + P-1U.

But when you get to the pieces of the orchestra pretty nicely sounds the detail with more volume
And more sounds.

When taking the exact same source with the same interconnect cable
SA11
SPL connector The image is completely different
The amplifier character is different from the P-1U which is so fit for the HD800 and Z1R
but
With the Z1R, the amplifier has very good control over its big bass
Immediately reminds the sound of what I remember from a TUBE amplifier
I had- for hd 800 is superb amp all in all .

But the SPL has become the sound of everything I've heard so far
With incredible detail.
In the recordings of the Benjamin Britten in DECCA
I was sucked into the music.
The disadvantage is that you hear everything without any discounts whatsoever
But I'm still amazed at every passing day - an amazing match between SPL and Z1R

At first you really do not know how and what falls on you in the Z1R
But today I know how to better appreciate its benefits
Over the HD800
For Timber
Again returns to recording 1984
The Israel Philharmonic plays Peter and the Wolf of Prokofiev
Itzhak Perlman is the announcer
Mehta .
The best recording I've ever heard of EMI
At the Mann Auditorium in Tel Aviv
All sounds so wide open and clear to be within the music
With Z1R
I'm just speechless
Just the same with the HD800 but with BCL sounds good
And with great P-1U
But no one is like the sound of Z1R+SPL as flat
from
Which is exactly the same amplification sources with the Z1R+bcl/p1u
And today exactly the same sources with SPL
you need
Hear how many times believe what you get

Here the Z1R is definitely superior to the HD800

For example, Net King cold has some old songs I have with him
Z1R + SPL sounds much much more convincing than
P-1U + Z1R
Bottom line
I have not heard the HD800 + SPL

I really like the HD800 but I may be returning it because I have the
SPL
It interests me just as interesting as you hear the Z1R

But very much ask you that the Z1R will be replaced by the original cable which is fine but
need more
I'll get my UPOCC cable and we have a lot to talk about.

The test will be when everything is balanced after a break

 

[mrhero]

In my opinion this amp is deserving more interest.
Sound, technology (120v rail, crosfeed), look (those Vumeters), I love this amp.

 

[SONYES]

 

[c1ferrari]

Looks really nice. Too bad it's not balenced....

I believe, as other posters may have noted, the XLR outs in the rear can be used to drive balanced headphones.

 

[c1ferrari]

Even ATC used to use the opposite way to the current way that they wired their XLR sockets. So I'm not surprised that other equipment does the same.
It's easy to get right. Just find an electronics engineer who can re-solder the two switched pins on the XLR plugs.
Also, someone else commented earlier in this thread about the Phonitor 2 "too bad they're not balanced." That's incorrect. They are balanced all the way through, but they have a single ended FRONT stereo headphone socket for convenience.. For balanced headphones, you just use the balanced outputs on the rear. It says you can do this, in the manual. You can even buy an added switch unit for the XLR outputs so that the output can be switched one of 4 ways....to different power amps, different balanced headphones etc. I use one of these in my setup...see the photo below.

Nice pic...thanks.