SONY NW-WM1Z / WM1A
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Mar 6, 2017 at 1:22 AM Post #10,022 of 45,723
Ah, yes. Thanks I missed that part out. I should compare using DSD audio files. I reckon non-DSD files will not benefit much from balanced connection, then?

it's a jump in sq in balance for everything
 
Mar 6, 2017 at 3:55 AM Post #10,023 of 45,723
I was reviewing both 1A and 1Z and trying to browse through this thread to verify my observation. This confirms it. I do find the 1A more sparkling (burn-in 200 hrs) vs. 1Z better lows (burn-in 20 hrs). 1Z seems to be catching up but when playing on hi-def files, I can still detect the characteristic difference. I won't be able to burn the 1Z any further as I have to return both units back to Sony this week.
you should get both in more than 200 hours to do that
 
Mar 6, 2017 at 9:35 AM Post #10,024 of 45,723
 
Yes. SONY make a focus on Balanced.

That's why only balanced is able to play Native DSD while SE if you play DSD ot will be converted into PCM.

Ah, yes. Thanks I missed that part out. I should compare using DSD audio files. I reckon non-DSD files will not benefit much from balanced connection, then?


​Not just DSD, also try PCM in 24 and 16 bit
 
Mar 6, 2017 at 12:14 PM Post #10,027 of 45,723
Wow, yes I finally sat down and did some careful comparison. It does sound a great difference from an audiophile perspective!

Here me sitting watching everybody doing balanced or TRRS... no job, no way of funding cables boo
 
what you detect when you switch from SE to Balanced and visceversa?
 
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Found a job today, so at the end of the month i will order my cables and wait two more months LOL
 
Mar 6, 2017 at 1:48 PM Post #10,028 of 45,723
I have a question for you guys who have been using TRRS (ZX2 or WM1x) and Balanced 4.4mm (WM1 only).
 
Whta i have understood BALANCED output is like SE TRRS but with more power, am i correct isn't it?
 
So what do you recommend me to buy? One TRRS and one 4.4mm cable or buy both as 4.4mm? I was thinking the 4.4mm for Home and the TRRS 3.5mm for on-the-go such as work
 
Mar 6, 2017 at 2:30 PM Post #10,029 of 45,723
  I have a question for you guys who have been using TRRS (ZX2 or WM1x) and Balanced 4.4mm (WM1 only).
 
Whta i have understood BALANCED output is like SE TRRS but with more power, am i correct isn't it?
 
So what do you recommend me to buy? One TRRS and one 4.4mm cable or buy both as 4.4mm? I was thinking the 4.4mm for Home and the TRRS 3.5mm for on-the-go such as work

 
I would stick to 4.4mm. It sounds better than the 3.5 (it's my understanding coming from ZX2 that the 3.5 jack on ZX2 and WM1A is pseudo balanced), even with a balanced cable.
 
Mar 6, 2017 at 2:45 PM Post #10,030 of 45,723
I have a question for you guys who have been using TRRS (ZX2 or WM1x) and Balanced 4.4mm (WM1 only).

Whta i have understood BALANCED output is like SE TRRS but with more power, am i correct isn't it?

So what do you recommend me to buy? One TRRS and one 4.4mm cable or buy both as 4.4mm? I was thinking the 4.4mm for Home and the TRRS 3.5mm for on-the-go such as work

It is not just power but the whole sound presentation improves quite a bit. I wouldn't worry about 3.5 at all. Once you get the 4.4 you will not go back to SE. I have not use the SE since I have my 4.4.
 
Mar 6, 2017 at 2:46 PM Post #10,031 of 45,723
I would stick to 4.4mm. It sounds better than the 3.5 (it's my understanding coming from ZX2 that the 3.5 jack on ZX2 and WM1A is pseudo balanced), even with a balanced cable.


Yes trrs is seperate ground and not proper balanced but still better than single ended. You could go with trrs on the cable and then a short trrs to trrrs pig tail (and a trrs to trs pigtail so you can also use the phones single ended).
 
Mar 6, 2017 at 3:34 PM Post #10,032 of 45,723
I'm nearly ready to pull trigger for wm1a. Can someone please describe the soundsignature of this player. Maybe against ibasso dx200 or astell kern ak300.
 
Mar 6, 2017 at 3:40 PM Post #10,033 of 45,723
Don't compare the ak300 to it.....ak 300 is a far worse player. DX200....is a sabre dac...If you like that sound signature, then it is good. WM1A is my preference....I know others can disagree I can't stand sabre glare sound, and that analytical thin sound. Even if it is filtered out, the notes are a bit dead and static. I haven't heard it, but I wouldn't trust all the hype on it just yet. The WM1A is nice but you have to get a 4.4 balanced cable which is pita and........it can't stream. 
 
Mar 6, 2017 at 3:43 PM Post #10,034 of 45,723
  Don't compare the ak300 to it.....ak 300 is a far worse player. DX200....is a sabre dac...If you like that sound signature, then it is good. WM1A is my preference....I know others can disagree I can't stand sabre glare sound, and that analytical thin sound. Even if it is filtered out, the notes are a bit dead and static. I haven't heard it, but I wouldn't trust all the hype on it just yet. The WM1A is nice but you have to get a 4.4 balanced cable which is pita and........it can't stream. 

Thanks. But for my grados gh1 I can't get a new cable because it is fixed to the headphone. Is there another option to go balanced?
 
Mar 6, 2017 at 3:45 PM Post #10,035 of 45,723
Thanks. But for my grados gh1 I can't get a new cable because it is fixed to the headphone. Is there another option to go balanced?


If the Grado cable is 4 cores all the way to the jack you could just reterminate
 
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