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Dec 7, 2019 at 9:31 AM Post #30,676 of 45,723
Yes but he was stating that brand new 1Z could be had for under $1000 and that I don't believe

He miss looked 1000 is for 1a


joking...... I’m joking damn it



The prices are falling due to the new Walkman. Funny it has a knob just like the DMP-Z1?


Thats not sony but shanling, really intriguing device I have to say. But why it affect sony 1z completely different brand and device.


That little thing Has TUBES!!! crazy lol
 
Dec 7, 2019 at 10:08 AM Post #30,677 of 45,723
He miss looked 1000 is for 1a





Thats not sony but shanling, really intriguing device I have to say. But why it affect sony 1z completely different brand and device.


That little thing Has TUBES!!! crazy lol

It was just a joke because it has a DMP-Z1 gold knob, like they made a mini DMP-Z1 to replace the 1Z. A joke..........as you know at some point maybe they will try and miniaturize the DMP-Z1..........And Walkman prices WOULD fall. :)

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Dec 7, 2019 at 10:08 AM Post #30,678 of 45,723
He miss looked 1000 is for 1a





Thats not sony but shanling, really intriguing device I have to say. But why it affect sony 1z completely different brand and device.


That little thing Has TUBES!!! crazy lol

Tubes have been around for long time. Good sound but they needed to be change when getting too old. FPGA's is the new stuff. No need for maintaince, reprogramable, and a lot more power efficient.
 
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Dec 7, 2019 at 10:15 AM Post #30,679 of 45,723
Tubes have been around for long time. Good sound but they needed to be change when getting too old. FPGA's is the new stuff. No need for maintaince, reprogramable, and a lot more power efficient.

It is new stuff, but I remember an engineer telling me about FPGA concepts 20 years ago.
 
Dec 7, 2019 at 10:58 AM Post #30,680 of 45,723
Hmm, I thought tubes were around in the 60's maybe even older.

But anyway, class AB amplifier is the best for DAPs but how hot it gonna be, is it portable enough, how often for tubes replacement, and what is a battery life?
 
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Dec 7, 2019 at 11:00 AM Post #30,681 of 45,723
Dec 7, 2019 at 11:14 AM Post #30,682 of 45,723
Before they had amplifiers radios had big horn like things so they looked like those victrola record players. Henry Ford had a huge collection of these radios and as people didn’t have AC, they ran off of batteries. Later the first amps were made with 300b tubes. The 300b tubes were so reliable they put a 300b amplifier in the middle of the Atlantic under the ocean to boost the telephone signal from New York to London. But still in Hi/Fi... stereos didn’t really become loud or mainstream until the early 1960s. What you have to remember is most of this gear was just too expensive for most people. The 1958 Fisher 500 cost 1/3 of the price of a car and was mono. Nice sound but mono. Another big American manufacturer was HH Scott.

http://hhscott.com/integrated_amps_stereo.htm

The thing was that by 1962 they were making 42 watt home stereo amps which were way way louder than anything before. That’s why many consider the early 1960s to be the beginning of Hi/Fi. I had one of these as my main headphone amp until I purchased a Woo 5LE in 2009. Amazing that really this technology works as good today as it did in 1962.

https://americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Audio/50s/Audio-1958-Sept.pdf

Stereo was just emerging in 1958 and there was a majority who didn’t believe it would catch on.

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Here is a stereo 40 watt Fisher from 1958. I had a X101. A Fisher 500 too.
 
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Dec 7, 2019 at 12:18 PM Post #30,683 of 45,723
joking...... I’m joking damn it



The prices are falling due to the new Walkman. Funny it has a knob just like the DMP-Z1?

The volume pot on the DMP-Z1 alone cost $700 or more.
 
Dec 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM Post #30,684 of 45,723
Dec 7, 2019 at 1:21 PM Post #30,685 of 45,723
Try again. That’s a $1K volume pot if not more.

LOL yeah. I was assuming Sony got better pricing. I wonder what the gold plated cap cost?

Personally a volume pot for $1K needs to do a whole lot more for me than just adjust volume. A WHOLE LOT MORE!

Some ideas:
  • Able to tell me my health status every time I touch the knob.
  • Voice and AI control that can understand my command "set volume not too low, but not too high"
  • Self cleaning feature, not just the knob but the whole device.
  • Can detect which album I want to listen to
  • Security lock feature based on my finger prints
  • Able to kill any virus or bacteria in my body each time I touch
Probably have a few more, but this is a good start.
 
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Dec 7, 2019 at 1:59 PM Post #30,686 of 45,723
Before they had amplifiers radios had big horn like things so they looked like those victrola record players. Henry Ford had a huge collection of these radios and as people didn’t have AC, they ran off of batteries. Later the first amps were made with 300b tubes. The 300b tubes were so reliable they put a 300b amplifier in the middle of the Atlantic under the ocean to boost the telephone signal from New York to London. But still in Hi/Fi... stereos didn’t really become loud or mainstream until the early 1960s. What you have to remember is most of this gear was just too expensive for most people. The 1958 Fisher 500 cost 1/3 of the price of a car and was mono. Nice sound but mono. Another big American manufacturer was HH Scott.

http://hhscott.com/integrated_amps_stereo.htm

The thing was that by 1962 they were making 42 watt home stereo amps which were way way louder than anything before. That’s why many consider the early 1960s to be the beginning of Hi/Fi. I had one of these as my main headphone amp until I purchased a Woo 5LE in 2009. Amazing that really this technology works as good today as it did in 1962.

https://americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Audio/50s/Audio-1958-Sept.pdf

Stereo was just emerging in 1958 and there was a majority who didn’t believe it would catch on.




Here is a stereo 40 watt Fisher from 1958. I had a X101. A Fisher 500 too.


WoW that is some history!
Reading that make think that we really live in amazing times and soon technology going to boom so high and bring more affordable audio gear to us.


Thats cool thanks for sharing
 
Dec 7, 2019 at 4:02 PM Post #30,687 of 45,723
Try again. That’s a $1K volume pot if not more.
Is it like what apple did on iPhone X price? $1k for retail price but only cost them like $360 to make.
 
Dec 7, 2019 at 5:58 PM Post #30,688 of 45,723
I still am very skeptical on how anyone would even do this test. Number one you would have to hope that you had the same exact cable made by the same manufacturer and same brand of both 3.5mm and 4.4mm plug. Just those requirements are next to impossible. The next thing you would need to do is actually measure the volume level before listening as the 4.4mm output is going to be way louder...........and that in and of itself is singlehandedly responsible for a laundry list of wrong perception ideas. But EVEN if you did do all those things exactly correct many believe you may hear better 4.4mm separation and imaging even if the IEM was easy to drive. Still everyone’s hearing is different and some wouldn’t notice the improvement. Where we get unquestionably great improvements is 4.4mm on something like the XBA-Z5.

Volume matched ahead of time, used 3.5 balanced with a 4.4mm adapter to switch quickly. Went back and forth 50+ times.
 
Dec 7, 2019 at 5:59 PM Post #30,689 of 45,723
Volume matched ahead of time, used 3.5 balanced with a 4.4mm adapter to switch quickly. Went back and forth 50+ times.
And....whats the result?
 
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