SONY NW-WM1Z / WM1A
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Oct 2, 2019 at 4:21 PM Post #29,866 of 45,723
Oct 2, 2019 at 6:21 PM Post #29,868 of 45,723
Have anyone tried to use 1z 4.4 out to RCA?
I am thinking to try ifi itubes2 in between 1z and ba300s oriolus :gs1000smile:

What you guys think?
That paired to ier-z1r
 
Oct 2, 2019 at 10:42 PM Post #29,869 of 45,723
Have anyone tried to use 1z 4.4 out to RCA?
I am thinking to try ifi itubes2 in between 1z and ba300s oriolus :gs1000smile:

What you guys think?
That paired to ier-z1r

Don’t do it. 3.5 to rca or 4.4 to xlr. Never go balanced to single ended
 
Oct 3, 2019 at 12:05 AM Post #29,870 of 45,723
Guys, I'm really torn between wm1a and wm1z, yes I know it's been asked countless of times, I've read through numerous reviews, briefly browsed through this 2k long thread, but still, if anyone has/used at some point both players, could you please throw your opinion if the SQ is really all that different, what is the consensus on this?
Thanks in advance...
 
Oct 3, 2019 at 12:15 AM Post #29,871 of 45,723
Don’t do it. 3.5 to rca or 4.4 to xlr. Never go balanced to single ended


What will happened? But its not really single ended its rca no?
Then back to balanced.
Its like a preamp....
 
Oct 3, 2019 at 12:31 AM Post #29,873 of 45,723
It's still very relevant after 3 years. I've on my hands brand new Ibasso DX220 and I can't decide objectively which is better. Ibasso is very neutral and transparent, and it's slightly better on technicalities. Sony on the other hand sounds more melodious and engaging being darker and more sparkly at same time. Subjectively I like WM1A more and wouldn't trade it for DX220
I have to agree.
I tried the ibasso 220 with the tube amp (very weak for iems) and then the strongest amp8 versions.

While the ibass was clean, polished,grand, and powerful (on amp8), it was also slightly further away and very integrated, balanced and composed...
So what's wrong?
The Sony was a tad more intimate and bit more depth, height, more organic, natural, immersive, and, in the end more involving and musical to me..
:)
I would say the differences are not night and day, but like in the 10% range..
 
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Oct 3, 2019 at 12:43 AM Post #29,874 of 45,723
I don’t believe balanced RCA cables exist.

Yes there is many 4.4 to rca cable on Amazon.

My whole idea was. To ise ifi itube2 as a preamp. Shout 4.4 to rca then rca to 4.4

Not sure why would it hurt the dap or the itube2?
 
Oct 3, 2019 at 12:57 AM Post #29,876 of 45,723
I have the iBasso dx220+Amp8 and Amp9.

1Z incoming next Monday.

Will compare both with IER-Z1R and provide my thoughts..


yes pleas do so :) I am very interested :)
 
Oct 3, 2019 at 3:22 AM Post #29,877 of 45,723
What will happened? But its not really single ended its rca no?
Then back to balanced.
Its like a preamp....

rca is single ended, each wire having 2 strands, one carrying a live signal and one ground so you will be shorting the ground side if you go 4.4 to rca. 4.4 carries 4 live signals and no ground (although the spec for the 4.4 can do 4 live plus one ground as there a 5 rings but Sony don’t use the ground)
 
Oct 3, 2019 at 3:40 AM Post #29,878 of 45,723
Don’t do it. 3.5 to rca or 4.4 to xlr. Never go balanced to single ended
Why are there still 4.4mm to RCA, 2.5mm to RCA in the market? That's dangerous for consumer who does not understand balanced and single ended...
 
Oct 3, 2019 at 3:41 AM Post #29,879 of 45,723
Why are there still 4.4mm to RCA, 2.5mm to RCA in the market? That's dangerous for consumer who does not understand balanced and single ended...

indeed. There is one use though as you can get an rca-xlr plug so you can connect an rca cabel to a balanced xlr terminal. This is mostly used if you have a nice set of rca cables but want to use them with balanced gear without having to reterminate them but you still have to be balanced both ends
 
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Oct 3, 2019 at 3:54 AM Post #29,880 of 45,723
indeed. There is one use though as you can get an rca-xlr plug so you can connect an rca cabel to a balanced xlr terminal. This is mostly used if you have a nice set of rca cables but want to use them with balanced gear without having to reterminate them but you still have to be balanced both ends
or the 4.4mm to RCA cable, instead of terminate 4-wire, the manufacturer only terminate 2-wire, it deliver single-ended signal eventually ?
 
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