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Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by leylandi, Jul 30, 2016.
  1. meomap
    Probably, many of us don't have balanced on PA or hp amp.
  2. Vitaly2017
    Have anyone tried to use 1z 4.4 out to RCA?
    I am thinking to try ifi itubes2 in between 1z and ba300s oriolus :gs1000smile:

    What you guys think?
    That paired to ier-z1r
  3. nc8000 Contributor
    Don’t do it. 3.5 to rca or 4.4 to xlr. Never go balanced to single ended
  4. SolarBeaver
    Guys, I'm really torn between wm1a and wm1z, yes I know it's been asked countless of times, I've read through numerous reviews, briefly browsed through this 2k long thread, but still, if anyone has/used at some point both players, could you please throw your opinion if the SQ is really all that different, what is the consensus on this?
    Thanks in advance...
  5. Vitaly2017

    What will happened? But its not really single ended its rca no?
    Then back to balanced.
    Its like a preamp....
  6. Pablovi
    I don’t believe balanced RCA cables exist.
  7. Maxx134
    I have to agree.
    I tried the ibasso 220 with the tube amp (very weak for iems) and then the strongest amp8 versions.

    While the ibass was clean, polished,grand, and powerful (on amp8), it was also slightly further away and very integrated, balanced and composed...
    So what's wrong?
    The Sony was a tad more intimate and bit more depth, height, more organic, natural, immersive, and, in the end more involving and musical to me..
    I would say the differences are not night and day, but like in the 10% range..
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2019
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  8. Vitaly2017
    Yes there is many 4.4 to rca cable on Amazon.

    My whole idea was. To ise ifi itube2 as a preamp. Shout 4.4 to rca then rca to 4.4

    Not sure why would it hurt the dap or the itube2?
  9. hshock76
    I have the iBasso dx220+Amp8 and Amp9.

    1Z incoming next Monday.

    Will compare both with IER-Z1R and provide my thoughts..
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  10. Vitaly2017

    yes pleas do so :) I am very interested :)
  11. nc8000 Contributor
    rca is single ended, each wire having 2 strands, one carrying a live signal and one ground so you will be shorting the ground side if you go 4.4 to rca. 4.4 carries 4 live signals and no ground (although the spec for the 4.4 can do 4 live plus one ground as there a 5 rings but Sony don’t use the ground)
  12. auronthas
    Why are there still 4.4mm to RCA, 2.5mm to RCA in the market? That's dangerous for consumer who does not understand balanced and single ended...
  13. nc8000 Contributor
    indeed. There is one use though as you can get an rca-xlr plug so you can connect an rca cabel to a balanced xlr terminal. This is mostly used if you have a nice set of rca cables but want to use them with balanced gear without having to reterminate them but you still have to be balanced both ends
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2019
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  14. auronthas
    or the 4.4mm to RCA cable, instead of terminate 4-wire, the manufacturer only terminate 2-wire, it deliver single-ended signal eventually ?
  15. simon740

    anyone use Sony MDR-Z7 with wm1a?


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