SONY NW-WM1Z / WM1A
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Sep 10, 2019 at 12:00 AM Post #29,581 of 45,723
Sep 10, 2019 at 4:13 AM Post #29,583 of 45,723
Thank you. But 3.5mm headphone jack to rca...this is not the best option.
Never mind. Thank you for info.

regards,
Simon

Well it’s the only option (or 4.4 to xlr input). The signal is really clean so you don’t really get any bad effect from the double amping
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 4:16 AM Post #29,584 of 45,723
Well it’s the only option (or 4.4 to xlr input). The signal is really clean so you don’t really get any bad effect from the double amping
Yes indeed. Using 3.5mm to rca output to my magni 3. Nice clean sound and no clipping whatsoever. Tested and verified with 1khz sweep test.
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 4:53 AM Post #29,586 of 45,723
Hmm....this is interesting.
I cant deside between WM1A and Cayin N6ii.
And for me is very important line out, because I need something for my integrated amp.
I also used 3.5mm to RCA , no problem very clean signal. Only on certain remasterings like Mozart piano sonatas with Christoph Offenbach on DG and if.you put high gain . 120/120 and.max the volume of the.amp you heard a hiss also with Beethoven piano sonatas set with Vladimir Ashkenazi on Decca/London this hissing happens BUT I REPEAT. YOU MUST CRANK THE VOLUME.OF.BOTH WM1A (H gain vol. 120) AND.IN THE INTEGRATED AMP TO MAX to hear it sure.you'll kill your hearing ar such volumes. On more.modern recordings like.phillips Mozart is dition or.DSD and hi-res flac I didnt heard.any hiss at all.

Update I us d a Fisher audio system from the early 90s
 
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Sep 10, 2019 at 4:59 AM Post #29,587 of 45,723
I also used 3.5mm to RCA , no problem very clean signal. Only on certain remasterings like Mozart piano sonatas with Christoph Offenbach on DG and if.you put high gain . 120/120 and.max the volume of the.amp you heard a hiss also with Beethoven piano sonatas set with Vladimir Ashkenazi on Decca/London this hissing happens BUT I REPEAT. YOU MUST CRANK THE VOLUME.OF.BOTH WM1A (H gain vol. 120) AND.IN THE INTEGRATED AMP TO MAX to hear it sure.you'll kill your hearing ar such volumes. On more.modern recordings like.phillips Mozart is dition or.DSD and hi-res flac I didnt heard.any hiss at all.

Update I us d a Fisher audio system from the early 90s
Thank you for this info.
Like I said...I wanna use WM1A like source. To replace my diy Linux player and topping d30.
So in the day use it in my speaker system and in the night for headphones:)
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 5:07 AM Post #29,588 of 45,723
Thank you for this info.
Like I said...I wanna use WM1A like source. To replace my diy Linux player and topping d30.
So in the day use it in my speaker system and in the night for headphones:)
the Fisher audio setup is from my best friend in hamburg, he told.me he for.it when the currency still was the Deutsche Mark.

In contrast my husband has a dogy surround with cheap speakers, and for changing sources he uses a DJ mix console with sliders for each channel. I tried my wm1A also RCA to 3.5mm with PCM is fine, but dare to play any DSD album and you dont need to crank volume loud, so normal listening.levels and it hisses like a really pissed off cobra snake
 
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Sep 10, 2019 at 5:16 AM Post #29,589 of 45,723
the Fisher audio setup is from my best friend in hamburg, he told.me he for.it when the currency still was the Deutsche Mark.

In contrast my husband has a dogy surround with cheap speakers, and for changing sources he uses a DJ mix console with sliders for each channel. I tried my wm1A also RCA to 3.5mm with PCM is fine, but dare to play any DSD album and you dont need to crank volume loud, so normal listening.levels and it hisses like a really pissed off cobra snake
:relaxed:
I have a UR Simply Italy
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 5:23 AM Post #29,590 of 45,723
:relaxed:
I have a UR Simply Italy
maybe the DJ console from my hubby has a short or another defect I have no knowledge of. Tried various DSDs from bought ones to self-ripped SACDs from 2.8 MHz to 11.2MGz and in all cases it hisses. With PCM tried all from CD tips, 16 and 24bit from 44.1 to 192KHz and it plays fine. Odd, that's why I spent 200€ to travel to Hamburg and visit my friend to test this on gos fisher Nd all fine on the fisher setup clean marvelous SQ
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 5:26 AM Post #29,591 of 45,723
maybe the DJ console from my hubby has a short or another defect I have no knowledge of. Tried various DSDs from bought ones to self-ripped SACDs from 2.8 MHz to 11.2MGz and in all cases it hisses. With PCM tried all from CD tips, 16 and 24bit from 44.1 to 192KHz and it plays fine. Odd, that's why I spent 200€ to travel to Hamburg and visit my friend to test this on gos fisher Nd all fine on the fisher setup clean marvelous SQ
Really appreciate for that info’s.

Thank you

Simon
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 8:23 AM Post #29,592 of 45,723
Seems like the new android walkmans dont have USB DAC

Keeping wm1A for this reason
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Sep 10, 2019 at 8:35 AM Post #29,593 of 45,723
The DAP has two completely separate headphone amps built in. One for 3.5 mm and a balanced one for 4.4mm connection. Each requires 200 hours of burn in time to start to really shine. They share zero components. So maybe, depending on your usage the 3.5 mm is more mature than the 4.4 mm amp.


I was using my 1z mainly in 4.4 for over 6 months now :) so be reassured its over past its 200 h burn in :)
On the other side the 3.5 was never used, and now I tried it with new FW and I like it more. That makes me think why ?
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 12:29 PM Post #29,594 of 45,723
Seems like the new android walkmans dont have USB DAC

Keeping wm1A for this reason

No nor BT receiver. Sony decided those features were not needed with native streaming supported
 
Sep 10, 2019 at 1:45 PM Post #29,595 of 45,723
No nor BT receiver. Sony decided those features were not needed with native streaming supported
I can only think that these new walkmans may have the poorest battery life among all sony daps and even compared to their very old mp3 players.
 
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