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Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by leylandi, Jul 30, 2016.
  1. gearofwar
    Would be appreciated if someone reuploads 3.01 again, couldn't find it on Sony website and really dislike 3.02
  2. fiascogarcia
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  3. Redcarmoose
    nc8000 is our hero!

  4. larzy
    Is the 1A enough to drive a pair of Sennheiser HD800 (not the s model)? Or would I need an amp?
  5. Whitigir
    Hd800 and Hd800s is ok with wm1A/Z. But if you want the very best out of it, you will need some heavy champs (amps) to do the job.

    DAP don’t really meant to drive full-size headphones on the go. Some of the modern one are very powerful, but there are tradeoff

    The only one that does the job well is by far the DMP-Z1 and with beautiful synergies too. Everything else you will need a top tier amp to make hd800/s to sing. Many people think both have piercing treble but it simply is being underpowered or driven by a not so good digital-analog source ...or both.
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  6. ruthieandjohn
    I tried my Sennheiser HD800 with my Sony NW-WM1A...

    With HD800.JPG

    This uses the balanced output of the 1A to the HD800. At highest volume, you are touching the threshold of painful loudness (1A gain on high). Sounds great.

    To compare, I also hooked up my CEntrance HiFiM8 via its balanced output to the 1A... similar volume, similar great sound.

    I then compared the 1A to my Sennheiser HDVD DAC/amp, built for the HD800. I got the pain-threshold volume at about 60% of full scale of the HDVD volume knob. Sound quality at similar volumes was indistinguishable from that of the other two players.

    Hope this helps!
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  7. Redcarmoose
    It was reported that Sony engineers never designed the Signature DAPs for full size headphones. On the other hand Sony marketing found use in showing both the MDR-Z1R and Signature Walkmans photographed together.
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  8. gerelmx1986
    When I am feeling better from my eyesight I will put my IER-M7 review.

    PS I am seen ng better every day but is a bit like a roller coaster ups and downs
  9. nanaholic
    I'd like to see where that report comes from.

    Because for the many times I've talked to Sony engineers, they don't seem to be the type that would say something like this. They understand some people's demand for more power but they themselves are easy going and believes in whatever people are happy with, and that means playing with any sort of combination they can think of. For example all the people who said that IER-Z1R can't be driven by a low power source, except when I talked with Kuwahara-san he said he even tuned the IER-Z1R with the Sony PCM-D10, which only outputs a measly 30mW on the 3.5mm jack, and finds it really pleasing due to the analogue-like sound signature of the D10 output.
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  10. gerelmx1986
    And with what they've tuned the IER-M7 and IER-M9?
  11. Whitigir
    A headphones can be driven by many sources, even an iPad to a noticeable loudness. But how it is going to perform will be another matter.

    Had I plugged my Hd800s into my iPad Pro before ? I don’t see why not.....
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  12. Peter Ruby
    Maybe you didn’t SEE why not, but I bet you HEARD why not. :wink:
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  13. Peter Ruby
    Hey Whitigir, let me know when I can stop by and audition your DMP-Z1. I’d be happy to pay by the hour.
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  14. ruthieandjohn
    If my player drives my headphone to more-than-adequate volume (I.e. adequate is reached before the knob is turned up all the way), and if the player does not distort at its top volume, what more am I missing? If my Sony NW-WM1A reaches as loud as I’d ever want on a particular set of headphones (say HD800) before reaching say 80% of full volume setting, what more will it do for sound than my top-of-line desktop amp that reaches my max volume at, say 50% of its full volume setting?
  15. purk Contributor
    Sense of scale, refinement, and the ability to reveal nuances between every note, and greater sense of dynamic. As great as my modded 1Z sound, it is still fall quite short when directly compared to my best Desktop amplifiers and a highend DAC. Loudness doesn’t always yield the same sound quality, IMO.

    Same with upgraded linear power supply vs off the wall switcher.
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2019

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